X-Pro 2: any news?

[GaryLH]

Would be quite weird to collect digital bodies, though. The M6 and MP iterations and early BP bodies are much more sought after.

Interestingly, the numbers suggest that there are nearly as many X-pro1 users out there as there are M9 users...which, when you think about it, actually sort of makes sense.

Probably right..

Gary

 

[GaryLH]

Some more interesting tidbits if this is real

Some more interesting tidbits if this is real

http://photorumors.com/2016/01/15/t...-sony-and-other-interesting-facts/#more-78550

Probably should be taken w/ grain of salt....but very interesting info on the digital path changes in xp2.

Gary

 

[Jamie Pillers]

http://photorumors.com/2016/01/15/t...-sony-and-other-interesting-facts/#more-78550

Probably should be taken w/ grain of salt....but very interesting info on the digital path changes in xp2.

Gary

I wonder (if it is indeed a Sony sensor) if this is the reason the X-Pro2 was delayed beyond what people are thinking was necessary. I understand that if a camera company wants to use a Sony sensor, then they have to wait for some period of time before Sony will let them go to market with their camera... to give Sony a head start with their own camera(s) using the same sensor.

 

[Jamie Pillers]

Man. Four years for this to come out? That feature set, at that price point, is not going to convert anyone really. A used M8 is cheaper and, for the most part, gonna be better. I guess this is targeted at people who already shoot Fuji and have just worn out their bodies? But at the same time the advantages over the x100t, and the other current X bodies, seem very minimal.

You might want to have a look at the Fuji Guy's video explaining the upgrade details. His explanation makes the upgrade seem quite substantial. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S19U_eoa5Y

Be sure to watch the video all the way through, as a lot of important stuff gets said in the latter part of the video.

 

[krötenblender]

then they have to wait for some period of time before Sony will let them go to market with their camera... to give Sony a head start with their own camera(s) using the same sensor.

This is exactly what happens. I remember an interview some time ago with a Sony-guy, telling that for strategic reasons, Sony keeps its best sensors for their own products, and only after some time start to sell them to the competition.

I can not find the interview again and it was before the split of the sensor-part of Sony. So I can not say, that this is still the case. But from a business point of view, it makes sense, I think. They try to get a bigger market share with their cameras, so they keep the best away from the competition.

 

[SausalitoDog]

The only thing that disturbs me about this announcement is that The X Pro 2 will be much smaller than the current model. What's that mean?

I mean, if they're going to make it the same size as the XM series or whatever the barebones consumer series are, that's a huge mistake.

They could shave a few millimetres off here and there but please do not make it small. As much as I love the Olympus Camera, I'm talking the Micro Four Thirds. Even there OM D Series bodies were too small.

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Looks like the size is actually 1mm larger...thank god

 

[gavinlg]

Man. Four years for this to come out? That feature set, at that price point, is not going to convert anyone really. A used M8 is cheaper and, for the most part, gonna be better. I guess this is targeted at people who already shoot Fuji and have just worn out their bodies? But at the same time the advantages over the x100t, and the other current X bodies, seem very minimal.

It's not the type of camera that wows on spec sheets and techno geekery. It's a pure photographers tool. It's a specifically honed camera. To those that like what it is, it's pretty much ideal. To those who need features and bleeding edge specs, there's always the XT-1 or.. well.. pretty much every other mirrorless camera on the market fighting for spec superiority in a murky haze of clumsy ergonomics and video recording buttons taking up precious space on the top plate.

 

[bhop73]

Man. Four years for this to come out? That feature set, at that price point, is not going to convert anyone really. A used M8 is cheaper and, for the most part, gonna be better. I guess this is targeted at people who already shoot Fuji and have just worn out their bodies? But at the same time the advantages over the x100t, and the other current X bodies, seem very minimal.

IMO, the ONLY things that the m8 has over this is traditional rangefinder focusing and m-mount. There is NO WAY I would buy an M8 body at this point in time. The sensor just seems too aged to me. Plus the whole extra IR filter requirement is lame. (admittedly, i've never used one, i'm just going from online samples)

 

[Taipei-metro]

Anyone went to Tokyo for Xpro2 intro party?
digiRev spin off, Bokeh Locke(?) did,
Hands on xp2;
https://youtu.be/fv7lt9LiOMA

So Fuji has the X-Pro 2, big bro Kodak has film Super-8(as exciting as 90's Advanced Photo System)...
just reporting...

 

[taemo]

didnt know that the X-Pro2 shutter dial is also the ISO, brilliant, just like on some film cameras.

 

[shawn]

" Even if you have the M-to-X adapter only certain lenses are gonna have accurate framelines (the 35 and the 90) and they obviously won't be "as listed" due to the crop."

You can set the Fuji to any focal length you want to get the framelines you need in the OVF. They are projected from the EVF.

Shawn

 

[danielsterno]

fingers crossed on its manual focusing, this new sensor and I assume the AF will be good- Hell I'm using the first version x100 so this will be more than good, just a little apprehensive on the manual focus for M lens and the new sensor….. been waiting a long time for this announcement

 

[GaryLH]

One of the early reviewers shooting a preproduction mentioned the uncompressed raw file is 50mb. Bigger than I expected from a 24mp sensor. He also mentioned that he shoots professionally w/ xt1 and xp2 is one stop better in terms of high ISO performance.

Gary

 

[Lss]

http://photorumors.com/2016/01/15/t...-sony-and-other-interesting-facts/#more-78550

Most interesting information is the "confirmation" that X-Pro2 has the technical capabilities for 4K video, but it doesn't get that for what is basically referred to as product differentiation reasons. And I know many don't intend to use video.

 

[Lss]

also mentioned that he shoots professionally w/ xt1 and xp2 is one stop better in terms of high ISO performance.

Should be at least that with the upgrade from the old 16MP sensor to the not-that-new 24MP. I guess I have the same one in my A6000.

 

[daveleo]

$499 for New X-pro1

$499 for New X-pro1

BH Photo:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...oCFZIWHwodZI4MQw&Q=&ap=y&m=Y&is=REG&A=details

I think this is news . . . isn't it?
That seems very attractive.

 

[marcr1230]

I've watched most of the fujiguys x-pro 2 video. The camera seems really nice and a step or 2 up from the x-pro 1
I love my x100t. The operation is so simple and intuitive. The 2 seems to be in the same line. Focusing looks snappy and improved
It may not be a D500 or a D5 for sports - but it looks pretty credible for most other needs

 

[shawn]

Oh really? That's good to know. I was told otherwise and my actual usage experience was with the native Fuji Lens. Speaking about the Pro1, of course.

Just retried it on the XPro1 (which I just updated the firmware in) has 6 spaces for adapted lenses focal lengths. First 4 are preset, 5 and 6 you can set to whatever you want up to 999mm. However, the frame lines won't adjust for all of that range. I think this changed from earlier firmware as I used this in the past with adapted telephoto lenses.

The Fuji M adapter lets you access those first 4 presets (and allows the camera to also correct distortion and vignetting). With non-Fuji built adapters you only have access to the 5 and 6 preset with no corrections available.

Shawn

 

[Dante_Stella]

" Even if you have the M-to-X adapter only certain lenses are gonna have accurate framelines (the 35 and the 90) and they obviously won't be "as listed" due to the crop."

You can set the Fuji to any focal length you want to get the framelines you need in the OVF. They are projected from the EVF.

Shawn

But they won't be field- or parallax-corrected, which is going to make the OVF most useful with longer distances or wides (which was my experience with the X-Pro1). But Fuji could remedy this by putting at least a 10-step distance encoder in a new version of the M adapter. You could get close. In fact, if they could address the framing problem, this could be a killer platform for OVF, rangefinder-style focusing of legacy SLR lenses.

D

 

[shawn]

But they won't be field- or parallax-corrected, which is going to make the OVF most useful with longer distances or wides (which was my experience with the X-Pro1). But Fuji could remedy this by putting at least a 10-step distance encoder in a new version of the M adapter. You could get close. In fact, if they could address the framing problem, this could be a killer platform for OVF, rangefinder-style focusing of legacy SLR lenses.

D

True, no parallax correction. Cool idea about a distance encoder, that could work well for M lenses. If Fuji made a Nikon adapter with electronics for "D" lenses they could do something similar as well.

Hopefully, the hybrid mode with the small EVF window inside the OVF will work with adapted lenses. If so that will allow MF adapted lenses while in the OVF mode. For critical framing there is of course the EVF as well.

Shawn