X-system users: Fuji has a road-map, but do you?

[dbarnes]

Just bought an X100s, my first Fuji.

If it turns out that I actually *use* it and can justify an XPro-2, I'll wait till the XPro-2 is available used, then sell the X100s and start over:

1) XPro-2 with 23mm and 56mm
2) Then add a 14mm
3) Then add a second XPro-2 body

 

[noimmunity]

Since I renewed my "commitment" to M-mount digital recently, the Fuji X system has to take a back seat.

My plan:

1) keep the X-Pro1 body until a body appears that has either manual focus confirmation in the OVF (dream on) or has vastly superior low-light AF
2) lens-wise, buy the long zoom, followed by the 56/1.2 portrait lens, followed eventually by the wide zoom.

OT, the appearance of the Blackmagic pocket super 16 camera in MFT mount had me thinking for a moment of ditching the X system altogether in order to build an MFT system that would do film and stills. But it looks like the MFT system doesn't have really good low light capability and personally I don't see that system developing well in that direction due to sensor size.

 

[Rodchenko]

I want Fuji to do a true digital rangefinder, rather than a CSC that looks like one. M mount lenses would be welcome.

If the X-Pro 1 fit the bill, I would have sold my grandmother to get one.

 

[semilog]

I might get a second X-E1 when prices drop. I'd rather have two identical bodies than two different ones. I might get the 23/1.4. I have the 18/2 and some adapted glass. I might get the RRS plate and grip for one of the bodies. Really, the X-E1 is so capable that I just want to use the hell out of it.

I will shoot more once I'm done moving my mom's household 1,000 miles. I will shoot during the move to document it both for insurance purposes, and because it represents a major transition in my family's life. I'll use the X-E1 and a Fuji 645 Wi to do that.

That's my entire strategy.

 

[GaryLH]

I want Fuji to do a true digital rangefinder, rather than a CSC that looks like one. M mount lenses would be welcome.

If the X-Pro 1 fit the bill, I would have sold my grandmother to get one.

Fuji has been making rangefinder film cameras for a very long time.. W/ all their experience and knowledge they decided to go the ovf/evf route for their digital APS-c entry into the market.

It would be nice to c Fuji do something here, but given what they have invested..it would be surprising. The market is mainly into af not rf these days it appears.

More likely to c the x100s split image implementation or some more interesting variation would be my guess.

Gary

 

[Tijmendal]

I'm not into the Fuji system, but if the X-Pro2 is going to be any good then I'm probably switching. DSLR's don't make much sense anymore (unless you want an ultra-fast autofocusing body for sports)

 

[jsrockit]

I want Fuji to do a true digital rangefinder, rather than a CSC that looks like one. M mount lenses would be welcome.
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What would Fujis motivation be to make it M mount? It has its own mount so this would be counterproductive. The Fuji is more like the Contax G than a Leica M.

 

[RealXenuis]

I want Fuji to do a true digital rangefinder, rather than a CSC that looks like one. M mount lenses would be welcome.

If the X-Pro 1 fit the bill, I would have sold my grandmother to get one.

What's do you qualify as a 'true digital rangefinder'?
Does their split image implementation not qualify in your eyes, and if not, why?

Just curious

 

[RealXenuis]

Recently sold the x-E1 and primes, purchased the x100s (i never owned the x100). Love the utility of that cam. The plan is to keep (or sell and buy later a used or new Xpro-2) and zooms for travel/settings that would benefit from reach and flexibility. The zoom (so far) is just so good, 99% of the time i couldn't tell if the image was shot with the zoom or a prime. I will get the tele and the 10-24, and possibly one prime (haven't decided on which FL would be the most useful to me at ____ f-stop). For everything else, it's the x100s. It's just way d$mn too convenient to not have. The xpro1(2) is just way too d#mn well made and fits me so well ergonomically, I can't imagine not owning it for bigger outings. (and just to clarify- i think all of the primes are outstanding, with the 35mm ASTounding.).

 

[Rodchenko]

What would Fujis motivation be to make it M mount? It has its own mount so this would be counterproductive. The Fuji is more like the Contax G than a Leica M.

Just the range of good optics (Zeiss as much as Leica) which are available. And I've just seen an adaptor for M lenses online.

*gulp*

aaaand for OM lenses (of which I have a few)

*eek*

 

[Rodchenko]

What's do you qualify as a 'true digital rangefinder'?
Does their split image implementation not qualify in your eyes, and if not, why?

Just curious

Perhaps I've misunderstood. I thought it was like the G system of focussing rather than a coincident image. I must admit I've just reread the dpreview pages, but it wasn't at all clear.

 

[NicoM]

What's do you qualify as a 'true digital rangefinder'?
Does their split image implementation not qualify in your eyes, and if not, why?

Just curious

The implemented split imaging focusing is nothing like a rangefinder. If anything, it's more like a film SLR with two connecting pieces in the center.

 

[semilog]

"Nothing like." Well, I think all small cameras are pretty similar. An OM is certainly more similar to an M than either one is to a Hasselblad with a pentaprism.

 

[bwcolor]

X100s and film. I'll wait a couple of generations and look around..... Fuji 'x' generations.

 

[DarvOz]

Fuji x100 currently, getting an XE-1 with the 18-55mm kit and the 35mm prime. Saving the rest of my pennies for the Xpro-2 and the 56mm then I will be done I think. But I am looking to get the XE-1 before I head to Africa and Kilimanjaro early next year, sadly that will be before the XP-2 is released.

 

[blackfriday]

More than 5 years ago I switched from film to digital and bought a Nikon DSLR . I had very good glass, the Nikon worked flawless, I used it very much... BUT: my love for touching my gear, for pressing the shutter, for taking pictures - it was gone. It may sound odd, but taking pictures with my new Nikon gear felt kind of sterile to me.

To make a long story short... After one weekend with the X-Pro + 35 + 18mm my love was back and I sold all my Nikon gear. Today, one year later, despite all the quirks of the X-Pro I never regretted anything. So my roadmap is pretty easy:

- I will stay with Fuji X-Cameras
- buy the 14mm or Zeiss 12mm this year
- buy a 2nd body (X100S or X-Pro2) next year. I don't want to risk being on a journey with only one body
- adding the 56mm later

 

[gopherblue]

Switched to digital a few years ago from my beloved Konica Hexar RF and Hexar AF. Until now, I have been content with biding my time until digital offerings matured enough to justify committing to a system (Leica digital is too spendy and their tech isn't as good as others, I fear). My wants were simple, or so I thought: old-school, classic manual control layout, interchangeable high-quality lenses, rangefinder (or rangefinder-esque), outstanding IQ.

X-100 release a year or so ago definitely was tempting, but I didn't think it offered enough. Then the X-Pro1 came out, but again, as much as I liked it, I felt it was not as fully-formed as I wanted, and I decided to sit on the sidelines and see if the second generation would improve on the weaknesses I saw. One day, I promised myself, a manufacturer would have the system I wanted, and I'd commit.

Well, the day finally came. Amazon Warehouse had an offer I couldn't refuse: an ANIB X-E1 with 18-55 zoom for pennies over a grand, with a 30 return policy. In use, the lens is amazing.

Frankly, while I have been stunned with the ergonomics and results, right out of the box, to be fair, it is still lacking in some respects, and could definitely be improved upon. However, I feel the present range of lenses (and the roadmap of additional lenses if they live up to the high standard of the current offerings) is outstanding, and worth committing to.

While the X-E1 is not wholly ideal to me (I'd really like an OVF), I feel that it is a great entry point into the system, and I fully intend to upgrade to the X-Pro2 and/or X-E2 when the time comes.

I've already picked up the 35mm 1.4 (used as well, but seemingly NIB), and so far I love it.

If Fuji keeps it up, quality-wise, then the sky is the limit: When available, I definitely think I'll get the 56mm 1.2 and the 10-24mm wide zoom. I am very tempted by the 55-200mm zoom coming out shortly. Also, would like the 23mm 1.4 too. Hellz bellz, is that enough of a commitment?