xe3 should be here tomorrow!

what a great little camera, very good fit for small man hands. in fact i find no need for a lens mate thumb thing on the xe3 body.
and without the round d-pad my fingers are not constantly changing settings.
for the xt20 i just shut the pad off so it worked better but with the xe3 there is no need. so far...i like the directional/focus lever for setting up the menu etc. for the way i shoot i can see most things being turned off and shooting as simply as i can. just packed a domke f6 with xe3 & xt20 and the 3 f2 lenses for some shooting tomorrow.
the size difference between the xe2 and 3 is pretty small but enough to notice...the xt20 is even smaller but then i need a hand grip to make it feel ok.
still not sure what i'll do with the xt20...trade for a lens, sell or keep it and have different bodies in use at the same time. i now own 6 fuji bodies and 8 fuji lenses...now to bring my talent level up to the same level...😉
 
ptpdprinter said:
The XE3 has some incremental improvements, and some changes which you may or may not prefer to the XE2. Like most upgrades, some are really excited about it, others not so much. I hope the new XE3 meets the expectations of the OP.
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The XTrans III sensor is more than an "incremental improvement".

The XTrans III dual-gain sensor provides maximum dynamic range at low ISO while reducing read noise levels at higher ISO. FUJIFILM (via SONY) licenses this new technology from Aptina Imaging. Dual-gain technology increases the sensor sites' conversion gain at ISO 800 and above.

In bright light, increasing sensor site full-well capacity determines the dynamic range. In low light, read noise levels increase as ISO increases due to DC signal amplification. Increasing the circuits' conversion gain reduces the input-referred read noise (electronic noise caused by signal amplification). Increasing conversion gain also decreases full-well capacity.

With single-gain sensors, the relationship between conversion gain and full-well capacity affects a trade-off between dynamic range and input-referred read noise. This compromise is minimized with dual-gain senors

Here's a quote from an Aptina, technical white paper.

"Aptina targets inter-scene DR. Called Aptina DR-Pix technology, the technique combines two modes of operation in one pixel design – low CG for large charge handling capacity in bright scenes and a high CG mode with increased sensitivity and low read noise for low-light scenes..."

Here's some data that shows the benefit to input-referred read noise levels.

Right now FUJIFILM, SONY and Nikon are using dual-gain techniologies. There are probably others.
 
joe, looking forward to your thoughts of the X-E3.
I still have my XM-FL 24mm f8 lens.

will give the Sony world another try, but I'm missing the quality build of Fuji cameras and the AF joystick.
 
jsrockit said:
WOW, a good cheap camera... good idea.
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lol, i dont know if a mod edited my post or i just simply forgot to type the first half of the sentece (got distracted at the restaurant this morning) but meant to say that if Joe decided to unload his X-E1, I might be interested to use with my 24mm lens as a simple P&S
 
not much more to add atm...the change in size seems to be a benefit for me, clearing the back of the camera is a major change (for the better) to the ergonomics...slip the 27 on and many pockets can handle it, especially in winter with our big overcoats. the af is very fast now, faster with the older lenses as well.
thinking seriously of selling/trading the xt20 for another xe3 but there is a nagging thought that the xt20 might be good to use as a pair...
 
willie_901 said:
The XTrans III sensor is more than an "incremental improvement".

The XTrans III dual-gain sensor provides maximum dynamic range at low ISO while reducing read noise levels at higher ISO. FUJIFILM (via SONY) licenses this new technology from Aptina Imaging. Dual-gain technology increases the sensor sites' conversion gain at ISO 800 and above.

In bright light, increasing sensor site full-well capacity determines the dynamic range. In low light, read noise levels increase as ISO increases due to DC signal amplification. Increasing the circuits' conversion gain reduces the input-referred read noise (electronic noise caused by signal amplification). Increasing conversion gain also decreases full-well capacity.

With single-gain sensors, the relationship between conversion gain and full-well capacity affects a trade-off between dynamic range and input-referred read noise. This compromise is minimized with dual-gain senors

Here's a quote from an Aptina, technical white paper.

"Aptina targets inter-scene DR. Called Aptina DR-Pix technology, the technique combines two modes of operation in one pixel design – low CG for large charge handling capacity in bright scenes and a high CG mode with increased sensitivity and low read noise for low-light scenes..."

Here's some data that shows the benefit to input-referred read noise levels.

Right now FUJIFILM, SONY and Nikon are using dual-gain techniologies. There are probably others.
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While all that may be true, I am just comparing actual 16x20 images from my XE2 and XT2 in arriving at conclusions.
 
taemo said:
lol, i dont know if a mod edited my post or i just simply forgot to type the first half of the sentece (got distracted at the restaurant this morning) but meant to say that if Joe decided to unload his X-E1, I might be interested to use with my 24mm lens as a simple P&S
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That is what I responded to... XE1 w/ 24mm ... not sure why your thread changed.
 
Joe, I’m very interested in seeing your impressions as you work with the new camera. I really am liking my switch to Fuji with an XP2, and a second body is tempting.
 
I have an X-E1 and will likely soon get an X-E3. The main reason I bought a thumbs-up for my X-E1 is to keep the exposure compensation dial from being changed every time I take the camera out of the bag, or put it back in. Is the dial a bit better protected or harder to turn on the X-E3? I'll get the new grip for the X-E3 for the arca compatibility and to better work with my huge hands, as I have the grip for the X-E1 and it works well for me, but I'd like to skip the thumbs-up if possible.
 
Is the dial a bit better protected or harder to turn on the X-E3?

i don't think so. i'm so used to checking the top plate every time i take the camera out of the bag that i'm ok with it...but the dial still moves occasionally.
i have grips for all my bodies but have only been using the one for the xt20 as that body is hard for me to grip well on it's own. for the xe2s i stopped using the grips...i go back & forth with them.
 
I said I would, then I said I wouldn't, but I did anyway. Got my "3" yesterday and I'm pretty impressed. I had gotten an XPro2 used a while back and felt that it was too noisy, apparently a flaw in that camera. I'm very impressed with the files I get from this camera. Nothing from the real world yet but my test shots are very clean. Now I lust for an XF18/2 upgrade. I'm using the original on it and it's pretty good but not as fast as the 25/2. I knew that it was going to be small, but was surprised that it's even smaller than the X100 by a wee bit. I bought the grip as well and am glad I did.
 
Darthfeeble said:
..... Now I lust for an XF18/2 upgrade. .....
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+1

Not having the cash right now I keep changing my mind between an A7 and a X Series like a teenage girl deciding on a outfit to wear to the dance Friday night.

My eyes are getting older so I'm not sure about my beloved old Nikkors (28/2.8 AIs, 85/1.8) on the A7 or a new 18/2 & 50/2 combo on a XE3. The XE3 really seems like the sweet spot for folks who like more highly controllable compact cameras.

Now if they came out with a WR version of the XE3.....

It's great to hear to feedback on the XE3.

B2 (;->
 
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