2WK
Rangefinder User
Ok so I did the update and turned on auto ISO:
3200 and 1/125
The camera is still selects 1/20 and 1/60 etc. What am I doing wrong?
3200 and 1/125
The camera is still selects 1/20 and 1/60 etc. What am I doing wrong?
alienmeatsack
Well-known
The X100s I rented and my X-E2 also do this. It ignores the minimum shutter speed I set up to achieve the exposure that it wants. I never did figure out how to stop it.
Spyro
Well-known
Same here
I *suspect* that the camera has exhausted all the other options you've set for it (aperture and max ISO) and it chooses to break one limit rather than spit out an underexposed photo, and it breaks your shutter speed limit.
Personally I'd prefer the underexposed photo, because there's a reason I'm setting the min shutter speed: blurry (useless) photo.
Anyway I only checked quickly, I might be wrong.
I *suspect* that the camera has exhausted all the other options you've set for it (aperture and max ISO) and it chooses to break one limit rather than spit out an underexposed photo, and it breaks your shutter speed limit.
Personally I'd prefer the underexposed photo, because there's a reason I'm setting the min shutter speed: blurry (useless) photo.
Anyway I only checked quickly, I might be wrong.
back alley
IMAGES
it's not a 'hard' setting.
it will choose differently than set unless you up the iso or change the f stop etc.
it will choose differently than set unless you up the iso or change the f stop etc.
dpt2014
Established
Like back alley said, it's a soft limit. Many wish Fuji would give us the option of a hard vs soft limit. I feel the same. I'd rather have an underexposed than blurred picture.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
Underexposed is getting easier and easier to deal with in post. So I too would much rather have a hard limit.
But the Fuji implementation is standard (based on others input around the net), and it's nice to have at least that.
But the Fuji implementation is standard (based on others input around the net), and it's nice to have at least that.
burancap
Veteran
Hard limit, please. Otherwise, what is the point of even setting it?
GaryLH
Veteran
The norm on this implementation is a soft limit. I am ok w/ a soft limit. U can always use your exposure comp to handle under exposure to get the speed back up or go fixed iso and full manual.
I am ok w/ this implementation.. I can understand though the request for the option for soft vs hard limit.. Just thinking off the top of my head..not even sure if this is really a good idea.. Another option is a no lower then shutter speed. The current min shutter speed could be for the soft limit and new one would e for the lowest shutter speed u willing to use the camera at. For example for me, this would translate to 125 for soft limit and 15 for the lowest value. Of course, this type of option could lead to more confusion then it is worth now that I think more about it as I was typing. The option for soft/hard would be better..
Gary
I am ok w/ this implementation.. I can understand though the request for the option for soft vs hard limit.. Just thinking off the top of my head..not even sure if this is really a good idea.. Another option is a no lower then shutter speed. The current min shutter speed could be for the soft limit and new one would e for the lowest shutter speed u willing to use the camera at. For example for me, this would translate to 125 for soft limit and 15 for the lowest value. Of course, this type of option could lead to more confusion then it is worth now that I think more about it as I was typing. The option for soft/hard would be better..
Gary
2WK
Rangefinder User
What? I don't see the point. They should change the name of the feature to "Maybe Minimum Shutter Speed"
Margu
Established
why not shoot at shutter priority with auto ISO?
or what about shooting in manual with auto ISO?
or what about shooting in manual with auto ISO?
FA Limited
missing in action
i can see why they went with a soft limit, i would think if your shutter speed reports slower than your minimum that you would realize that you did something wrong anyways. maybe you could save your underexposed shot but that's no guarantee either. does the shutter speed not show in red or something like that?
technically this falls under "user error" because you set parameters that was impossible for the camera to hit.
technically this falls under "user error" because you set parameters that was impossible for the camera to hit.
GaryLH
Veteran
What? I don't see the point. They should change the name of the feature to "Maybe Minimum Shutter Speed"
Why should they change the name? The name is the basically the same for everyone which I am aware has implemented this soft limit feature.
It is actually been there in the x100 as a fw update for a very long time now..
The Sony and Ricoh implementations are essentially same way and the name is similar. Changing the name would just confusion since the precedence has been set by other manufacturers already.
Gary
2WK
Rangefinder User
I was kidding. I would just much rather it underexpose than select a slower shutter-speed.
Why should they change the name? The name is the basically the same for everyone which I am aware has implemented this soft limit feature.
It is actually been there in the x100 as a fw update for a very long time now..
The Sony and Ricoh implementations are essentially same way and the name is similar. Changing the name would just confusion since the precedence has been set by other manufacturers already.
Gary
GaryLH
Veteran
I thought it was sarcasism..
. But I was not sure.
Peace
Gary
Peace
Gary
2WK
Rangefinder User
I do this, but it feel like it has the capabilities to shoot aperture priority (wide open) and auto iso. If I set the MINIMUM shutter-speed to 1/125 then I wish it could choose any speed EXCEPT lower than 1/125.
Then, for example I am shooting and event (or out in the city streets) with drastically varying lighting conditions and I am moving quickly. Often I overexpose is I have the SS hard set to 1/125.
I guess the lazy me wants the high tech equipment to do even more of the work!
Then, for example I am shooting and event (or out in the city streets) with drastically varying lighting conditions and I am moving quickly. Often I overexpose is I have the SS hard set to 1/125.
I guess the lazy me wants the high tech equipment to do even more of the work!
why not shoot at shutter priority with auto ISO?
or what about shooting in manual with auto ISO?
______
Well-known
If you want a hard limit, you can use shutter priority. The shutter speed selected in shutter speed priority overrides the Auto ISO minimum shutter speed. Once max aperture and ISO are reached, underexposure results. The aperture readout in the viewfinder turns red to alert you of underexposure.
Archlich
Well-known
Is there ever a hard limit been put into a digital camera in this regard?
anerjee
Well-known
Exactly. It is much easier to shoot in shutter priority if you want to absolutely maintain a minimum shutter speed.
If you want a hard limit, you can use shutter priority. The shutter speed selected in shutter speed priority overrides the Auto ISO minimum shutter speed. Once max aperture and ISO are reached, underexposure results. The aperture readout in the viewfinder turns red to alert you of underexposure.
Margu
Established
I do this, but it feel like it has the capabilities to shoot aperture priority (wide open) and auto iso. If I set the MINIMUM shutter-speed to 1/125 then I wish it could choose any speed EXCEPT lower than 1/125.
Then, for example I am shooting and event (or out in the city streets) with drastically varying lighting conditions and I am moving quickly. Often I overexpose is I have the SS hard set to 1/125.
I guess the lazy me wants the high tech equipment to do even more of the work!![]()
manual with auto ISO is the best option especially with cameras that have high ISO capability.
but manual exposure is the only way to exert "creative control" over exposure
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
...but manual exposure is the only way to exert "creative control" over exposure
I agree. And its the most fun.
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