Yes it's great but is it iconic?

I tutor in a college Writing Center, and most of my tutees have never used a thesaurus, even an online version. I try to introduce them to the exciting (at least to me) world of synonyms. A few of them get it.


Erm, what is a «college Writing Center»? I mean, there are here and there analphabets who in fact might be highly gifted, but are these (in Europe quite rare) cases now the norm (or «normalcy»?) on US colleges?

Oh, I tend to forget that the US education system is totally awe…some 😉
 
Dear Steve,

Para 1: You teach, therefore you are a teacher. It's not a matter of labels or remuneration.

I agree with Steve here, at least on that particular word choice. In my experience at universities in the USA, one does not claim to "teach" in the help centers. Back when I was doing it, we all "worked" in the math help center, while later on I was "teaching" when I gave prepared lessons and (usually) graded assessments (that is, the teaching category included professors, teaching assistants, and some lab assistants). Admittedly, it was an unspoken consensus, but I have the feeling that it would have been perceived as claiming the job was more than it actually was, if one had claimed to teach in the math center. On the other hand, I don't think I ever used the word "tutee"--all the people who came in for help I simply called "students" (not my students, but they were all university students).

Re: the thesaurus and vocabulary, I generally agree with the advice of reading widely and letting one's vocabulary naturally expand by looking up unfamiliar words (I think I first read that advice in Stephen King's On Writing), rather than the more artificial reliance on a thesaurus or "word of the day"-type approaches with a dictionary. Then again, most of my degrees are in mathematics, so what do I know?
 
Dear Tim,

If you're not teaching, what are you doing? Why are you doing it?

Cheers,

R.

Of course, broadly defined, I did some teaching in the math center. Avoiding the word for describing the job was primarily to distinguish it from the teaching that involved designed lesson plans, official presentation, and grading assessments. Teaching isn't the wrong word, necessarily, but seems far less preferable to words that would maintain the distinction by letting the more formal activity be the one called teaching, and calling the help center job "tutoring" or "working in the math center."

Having done both, as an activity it didn't feel like teaching compared to the teaching jobs I held later on, so the distinction seems worth having (and certainly exists in the university culture in the USA, hence Steve's response). First, help from the center wasn't always explaining material. For example, I might quiz them for memorization, as any friend of theirs might have done, or more commonly I would mark up their proofs, projects, or problem sets (professors communicated to us if there was a major project we shouldn't do so), with no further explanation--a red mark on the line where something begins to go wrong being sufficient for them to figure out the material. Lots of students just wanted the reassurance they were on the right track or not. Second, when I did explain topics (the teaching part), it was never original presentation of material to the student, but revision for an exam or reexplaining to guide them through understanding a concept from their coursework they had difficulty with. It was never organized ahead of time, but a spontaneous response to whatever problem the student was having ("Show me the part of your notes you are having difficulty understanding..."), and thus was quite unstructured in form. It was never to more than two or three students at a time, and usually just one at a time. Basically, I served as a tutor provided by the university, and in fact organized less and presented less material than when I did work as a private tutor. It seems useful to distinguish between such an activity and the activity of presenting organized and original material to many more people for them to learn it and be assessed on it.

As an aside, the true "why" is that I had a financial aid grant that included working for the university, and sitting and reading in the math help center while occasionally helping someone coming in was a lot better slot than cafeteria work.
 
Of course, broadly defined, I did some teaching in the math center. Avoiding the word for describing the job was primarily to distinguish it from the teaching that involved designed lesson plans, official presentation, and grading assessments. Teaching isn't the wrong word, necessarily, but seems far less preferable to words that would maintain the distinction by letting the more formal activity be the one called teaching, and calling the help center job "tutoring" or "working in the math center."

Having done both, as an activity it didn't feel like teaching compared to the teaching jobs I held later on, so the distinction seems worth having (and certainly exists in the university culture in the USA, hence Steve's response). First, help from the center wasn't always explaining material. For example, I might quiz them for memorization, as any friend of theirs might have done, or more commonly I would mark up their proofs, projects, or problem sets (professors communicated to us if there was a major project we shouldn't do so), with no further explanation--a red mark on the line where something begins to go wrong being sufficient for them to figure out the material. Lots of students just wanted the reassurance they were on the right track or not. Second, when I did explain topics (the teaching part), it was never original presentation of material to the student, but revision for an exam or reexplaining to guide them through understanding a concept from their coursework they had difficulty with. It was never organized ahead of time, but a spontaneous response to whatever problem the student was having ("Show me the part of your notes you are having difficulty understanding..."), and thus was quite unstructured in form. It was never to more than two or three students at a time, and usually just one at a time. Basically, I served as a tutor provided by the university, and in fact organized less and presented less material than when I did work as a private tutor. It seems useful to distinguish between such an activity and the activity of presenting organized and original material to many more people for them to learn it and be assessed on it.

As an aside, the true "why" is that I had a financial aid grant that included working for the university, and sitting and reading in the math help center while occasionally helping someone coming in was a lot better slot than cafeteria work.
Dear Tim,

What you describe sounds to me much more like teaching than merely presenting previously prepared and rigidly defined material. The "teachers" were jealously guarding an inferior trade, profession or calling, as compared with what you were doing, because they didn't really understand what "teaching" is.

Cheers,

R.
 
Dear Tim,

What you describe sounds to me much more like teaching than merely presenting previously prepared and rigidly defined material. The "teachers" were jealously guarding an inferior trade, profession or calling, as compared with what you were doing, because they didn't really understand what "teaching" is.

Cheers,

R.

Of all the education jobs I've done, the one that I felt I did the most genuine teaching was in fact called "teaching," but was the lowest status teaching in the department. As a teaching assistant while doing my own graduate work, I taught an ungraded problem sets complement to a graduate level math course. It had more direction with the specific (professor-assigned) problem sets, but still required all of the spontaneous response and coming up with alternate explanations of the help center as I guided students through their work. I got great reviews and had much better attendance than the actual course, but it was exhausting.
 
Re: building vocabulary...

How do you organize the new words you run across? Just creating a text file or spreadsheet? There must be a program that let's you build, review, look-up, etc...

Any suggestions...

Casey
 
Erm, I work in a community college serving primarily members of the Navajo Nation. They are among the poorest of Americans. The Navajo Nation, or Rez, as we call it, is among the most remote, poverty stricken and undeveloped areas in the Northern Hemisphere. Hence the lower writing levels and the general lack of English skills.

But thanks for your fascinating insight on American education.

I think I must do the Enlgish version of this; I work with the longer term unemployed who are also natives with low literacy levels marginalised from modern society.

My job title is 'facilitator', how do you like that eh? (Same pay issue)

As for Roger's comments on English, I find them disappointing. The average literacy level in the UK is the equivalent of primary school year 5 (8/9 year old), so that expectation that people should have the skills to understand correct grammar is ridiculous. People only need to be understood. Text speak gets most people by without ever having to know where to put an apostrophe.

This reminds me of Hemingway's response to Faulkner saying that Hemingway 'has never been known to use a word that might cause the reader to check with a dictionary to see if it is properly used'.

Hemingway responded with...

'Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?'

I also like this one from Kurt Vonnegut...

'My advice to writers just starting out? Don't use semi-colons! ... All they do is suggest you might have gone to college.'

Curse you all for making me think about work while I have a week off! 🙂
 
Here in the US, everything older than 30 years is "vintage", which Europeans (with a real history) would simply call "old crap". 😀

"Retro." As in, "that camera is Retro!" Wether it's a Fuji X100 (Actually retro) or a Leica M2 (Actually old, not retro.)

"Old School" is sometimes worse, sometimes fine.
 
. . . As for Roger's comments on English, I find them disappointing. The average literacy level in the UK is the equivalent of primary school year 5 (8/9 year old), so that expectation that people should have the skills to understand correct grammar is ridiculous. People only need to be understood. Text speak gets most people by without ever having to know where to put an apostrophe. . . .
What do you find "disappointing"?

I must be misunderstanding you, because you seem to be saying that the lowest common denominator is all that is ever needed.

Cheers,

R.
 
I must be misunderstanding you, because you seem to be saying that the lowest common denominator is all that is ever needed.
Well, if we are developing into some kind of Brave New World: as lowest common denominator, even the Upper, Upper Middle, and Middle Classes actually must understand and use the Epsilon-language, I guess 😉
 
I have a theory. Nowadays, a great deal of most people's vocabulary comes not from books but from the internet, news articles etc. Teachers of English, in my humble opinion are nowadays fairly useless and the general opinion seems to be that as long as you are understood, it doesn't much matter if the grammar and spelling are correct. Also, since the internet contains so much material, everything has to be hyped-up to the greatest possible extent to be attention-grabbing.

As a result of the abovementioned, people are not equipped with a wide vocabulary and grasp of grammar and there is a continuing cycle of degradation and over-hype.

Yes, everything being "iconic" does grate on my nerves but even more so does everything being "key". Amongst my tasks in a previous job was proof-reading reports being sent to clients (in a consultancy business). In this capacity, I once underlined, in red, 63 instances of the word "key" on a single page and suggested to the author that he might like to introduce some variety - but to no avail. Likewise, I was always able to condense reports by 25-50%, without loss of meaning but this too was vetoed. The client was paying good money and a larger folder would be more impressive and appear better value-for-money! Of course, the client never read the report because there had to be an "executive summary" at the beginning, since busy executives didn't have time actually to read what was in there! How many trees could have been saved!
 
There’s more…

“Important to recognise”
“I, personally”
Gotten” ...

In US English, the correct three principal parts of the verb "get" are get, got, gotten. This is different from British English, but it is correct in the US dialect. You will therefore see/hear this usage frequently among Americans.

- Murray
 
Ref . "hype"....
In today's NY Times in an article about a 30 year old Janet Jackson album the author mentioned the planet stopping power of current pop stars.
So far I was pretty sure no matter what, the earth won't stop turning but obviously I was wrong all these years🙄
 
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