You have lost your mind with the Forum Categories

Some of this seems to reflect Stephen Gandy's own site. He is careful to give separate pages to many different kinds of cameras, some of which are quite obscure.
 
David Murphy said:
I'd say the title is a little brash and provocative, but I'm not insulted.

On the other hand, I don't see a problem with many categories -- what's the big deal?
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I agree, it is brash, and certainly asking for attention. But "the big deal"?

I thought the "Provide your feedback" forum was to do exactly that. Should people be drummed out of the island for providing feedback?

The tone of the subject title is not helping. I should say this: if it were some other members of the forum, he wouldn't be attacked so.
 
Plasmat said:
For example, where would I put my Horizont?

Russian RF?
35 Panor not Xpan?
Fixed Lens RF?
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You would post in 35MM Pano not Xpan since the Horizont is not a rangefinder. It is Russian and it is a fixed lens but.......

Steve
 
VinceC said:
Some of this seems to reflect Stephen Gandy's own site. He is careful to give separate pages to many different kinds of cameras, some of which are quite obscure.
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Agreed. But anybody who had been a very regular visitor, would have known that this kind of shift has been tried before and it proved confusion and disorganization a couple of times before.

Sometimes, simplicity truly is best. Not too much, though. Many people interpret that in some way and sway the manic pendulum way.
 
Maybe there has been now commenting on the use of language, so this has been taken care of in a way. I find the title not chosen well.

Let's focus on the actual subject matter. This is a good chance to rearrange the forums. Maybe a consensus can be reached eventually as long as people here suggest new sets of forums. The positive side of it all is the fact that some other websites would not be receptive to having its members provide such feedback whereas this one most likely is.

Raid
 
sjw617 said:
You would post in 35MM Pano not Xpan since the Horizont is not a rangefinder. It is Russian and it is a fixed lens but.......

Steve
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Yes, I thought of that but decided to not go back and edit my post. The Horizont is not a rangefinder. So maybe there needs to be a category "FSU/Unusual 35mm format/Almost a Rangefinder/Moveable lens/Pano" specifically for these types of cameras.

Spy Cameras
Non-rangefinders with rangefinders in the hot shoe
Dim Rangefinders
Chinese rangefinders (actually a good serious category)
 
I would like a StuartR forum for all posts by me, about me, relating to me, inspired by me, or involving any of my cameras or photos.




:) Just kidding, please no one flip out, this is not directed at anyone or anything, I just think that when the forums get this specific, it is heading that way...
 
Plasmat said:
So maybe there needs to be a category "FSU/Unusual 35mm format/Almost a Rangefinder/Moveable lens/Pano" specifically for these types of cameras.
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Why are people trying to get rid of Panoramic forums? I think it is great that there is a non Xpan Panoramic forum. Maybe combine the 35mm, MF and LF Panoramics into one forum (no posts yet in MF or LF). Even combine them with the Xpan and have a sub section like the Leica M8 / M8 problems.
 
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Let's have a Black Painted That Weren't Originally Painted Black RF forum.

Also a Purple Skin RF forum. I don't see that anywhere. I know they exist; people love them. How come they're so neglected?!? My RF Shows Brassing forum? :angel:
 
I am trying to reserve judgement here. I have mixed feelings about how detailed the seperate forums are. There can sometimes be so much overlap that one might not know where to post a question to get the best feedback. For example: I own a Olympus 35 EC. This camera fits at least three specific categories: Olympus, Fixed lens RF, and Scale Focus 35's. Where to post?

If all of these forums are necessary, then what about finding a way to post to multiple forums at once? Or perhaps subcategories within a forum? I don't even know if these things are possible, but if they are might that help?
 
>>There can sometimes be so much overlap ...<<

That's true. But there's already much overlap. A good number of discussions about Nikkor, Canon and Soviet lenses have been posted in Leica forums because the lenses were in Leica thread mount.
 
Okay, I am going to ask a few awkward questions:

-- Why is there a "Scale Focus 35's" forum on Rangefinder Forum?

-- How many 35mm half-frame rangefinder cameras are there? (The only ones I can think of offhand are the Leica 72 and the Nikon S3M, both of which are vanishingly rare and both of which are already covered by other forums. Maybe there are one or two more -- and I'd love to see a list -- but are there enough to need a whole forum?)

-- How many "35 Panor Not Xpan" rangefinder cameras are there? Again, I'd love to see a list.
 
JLW,
There are no other rangefinder Panoramic cameras but the Xpan. The non Xpan forum is for all other 35mm cameras - yes, NON rangefinder. It seems there a move to expand beyond rangefinders for those who do not shoot with rangefinders only.
Scale focus, large format, and stereo seem to fit the expansion. They are small (I think) specialties that some people here use. There are non rangefinder cameras accepted in a couple of forums here.
I guess we will have to see how this all shakes out.

Steve
 
I know I've expressed this view before, but I'm pleased if non-RF viewfinder cameras may be accepted equally, as having a similar view of the world. I think there's a fundamental difference in the user experience between "viewfinder" or "direct view" cameras versus those that image the scene on ground glass or an LCD. Of course in the richness of photography, some can do both, and then the distinction can be made, and hairs split, depending on which viewing method is used.
 
jlw said:
Okay, I am going to ask a few awkward questions:

-- Why is there a "Scale Focus 35's" forum on Rangefinder Forum?

-- How many 35mm half-frame rangefinder cameras are there? (The only ones I can think of offhand are the Leica 72 and the Nikon S3M, both of which are vanishingly rare and both of which are already covered by other forums. Maybe there are one or two more -- and I'd love to see a list -- but are there enough to need a whole forum?)


-- How many "35 Panor Not Xpan" rangefinder cameras are there? Again, I'd love to see a list.
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scale focus -- over a million Rollei 35's

the Ruskie panoramics

Stephen
 
Dougg said:
I know I've expressed this view before, but I'm pleased if non-RF viewfinder cameras may be accepted equally, as having a similar view of the world. I think there's a fundamental difference in the user experience between "viewfinder" or "direct view" cameras versus those that image the scene on ground glass or an LCD. Of course in the richness of photography, some can do both, and then the distinction can be made, and hairs split, depending on which viewing method is used.
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Pretty much what he said. I think of RFF as a home for all enthusiasts of direct view cameras. Besides RFs, I have an Argus A, a Retina Ia and a Nikonos. Aren't they more like a RF than a SLR?
 
CameraQuest said:
scale focus -- over a million Rollei 35's
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None of which is a rangefinder camera, right?

the Ruskie panoramics
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None of which is a rangefinder camera, right?


If the consensus is to turn this site into "Nostalgia Camera Forum," fine -- but that's not why I'm here, and let's at least change the name to avoid confusing newcomers.
 
jlw said:
If the consensus is to turn this site into "Nostalgia Camera Forum," fine -- but that's not why I'm here, and let's at least change the name to avoid confusing newcomers.
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I completely agree. I realise that the traditional RFF reaction to any sort of criticism is to smile pityingly and ask "why can't folks just get along?", but anyone who has been a member for any time will have noticed a continual gradual dilution of the commitment to rangefinder photography. It is very disheartening.

Ian
 
i vote for more categories. makes things easier to look up. the home page mixes it all up, if that's what you like.

and the "must have a rangefinder" thing is too uptight. plain viewfinder cameras are fine by me.
 
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