Your Methodology

I develop B&W film and print at home...I have my C-41 done at a local Walgreens but would be interested in finding another local lab...also been thinking of developing C-41 and E-6 at home...it's been a long time since I've done E-6 but it sounds like a fun thing to try again...
 
Good morning everyone,

While I am not new to film I am new to the 35mm/RF world. I was curious what is everyones methodology when dealing with the end result of their film.

Do you send your film off? Do you home process?

If processing color do you have your lab process and print, or just process? I have tended to avoid color in my MF days and found scanning/digital printing a process that voided the entire process of shooting an analog format.

I'm simply curious how everyone treats their final steps.

Dan

Hey Daniel, welcome to the RFF!

I'm all over the map. When I am in 'purist' mode, I shoot black and white film, develop it myself, and wet print in fiber paper, followed by archival toning. That's such a lot of work though! I do semi-pure by developing in my bathroom, scanning, then printing on large format Epsons. The former occupy my personal portfolios, while the latter are often found in the possession of others.

I also do all sorts of unspeakable things with digital.
 
Develop B&W film in the Bathroom. 😛
Hang Dry in the Hall ... From the chandelier 😱 ( less dust than bathroom,go figure )
Scan and post from my desk in Living Room. 😀

Prints send out to Lab...apt dweller with no room for that World

Overall am Happy, but there is always room
for Improvement -Eperimentation
 
I only shoot b/w film. So far I only home process the film. Hopefully I will set up a darkroom next year and start making traditional prints again. I did the Coolscan Epson inkjet thing and was not totally happy.
 
That's nothing, I have our best boy LeRoy process my film in our specially converted Gulfstream. When I print I take over the bowling alley in basement - makes it easy to handle the 24-foot long prints. I coat naked girls with Dektol and have them wrestle and squirm on the photo paper (in the dark). Thank goodness for night vision goggles or I wouldn't get such even development!
Mine does have the small advantage of being true.

Think about it. These are the old servants' quarters. The oldest parts are probably late mediaeval or Renaissance, but the houses have been rebuilt on and off for centuries. The big house next door is now the town hall. They don't have much need for stables or a wine cellar (both built into the side of a hill). That's why two small houses (basically, each of two rooms, one upstairs, one downstairs) came with stables and a wine cellar. There's also an old hay-loft (now my studio) over the old, outdoor kitchen and wine-cellar. Hardly the short of thing you were writing about.

Cheers,

R.
 
I shoot B&W film and develop it myself. Developing is easy, and I keep all the necessary stuff together, ready to go, in a plastic dishwashing basin.

I don't currently have room for a darkroom, though in the pre-digital era I always had one, but these days I'm doing this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdarnton/7183241686/
Almost all the B&W in my flicker stuff is done this way. My current goal is to get a 24Mp camera, probably a Nikon D7100, and start shooting more 120 film.

Recently (maybe still) Canon had big rebates on their Pixma Pro-100 printer (prints B&W with multiple greys, to 13x19") so that I got one for $89! That solves all my printing problems, and B&W from it looks fabulous.
 
Nothing like a "purist" approach for me; I shoot C-41 BW and some color, mail order develop and decent scans from Precision Camera, they mail me my negs and cds, I then edit those scans. The few that I want to print I then send the files to an on line company--Mpix--and they mail me back my prints. Usually I have the prints matted and framed locally occasionally I will have Mpix also matte and frame the prints.

Rob
 
After I hose off the processing ladies... and stop busting Roger's bowling balls... I revert to the grim reality of only shooting 4x5 C-41 and having my friend Edgar process it (http://4photolab.com, best lab in the world). Mostly I scan it on an Epson 700 and make prints on 11x17 Baryta inkjet paper using a balky Epson R3000 with the excellent Harrington Quadtone RIP for B&W. However my Epson recently bit the dust and I am reluctant to get another because my printing has fallen off along with Epson's quality control, so I happily use Eric at http://www.booksmartstudio.com to print my portfolio and for sale prints as needed. I have fooled many people once these prints are under glass ~ but no digital print with ink on top of the paper will surpass a silver/fiber print in the nude.

If it is an especially worthy image then I will get a drum scan from Lenny at http://www.eigerphoto.com in LA. And I have made some wonderful digital to Ilford silver-nitrate wet prints (i.e. conventional fiber-based, selenium toned photo paper) with Bob Carnie at http://www.elevatordigital.ca in Toronto. All these people mentioned are world-class artists and craftsmen. They do not come as cheap as processing at Walgreens though....

I've had full Zone System calibrated darkrooms and used to work in labs, used to own an Iris printer, studied with Jon Cone, and did prepress for a living. Less and less I find the need to actually print anything unless I have sold it or need to hang it up. Prints in boxes do nothing and I have thrown 90% of mine away in the trash. I like making Blurb or MILK books (HP Indigo) for family and casual portfolios. I know how to print and what a good print looks like, and I highly recommend learning how to print... but you do need an outlet and there are less and less of them. I expect the craft to dwindle and die out since what I've seen from hobbyists are really muddy grey prints and the photo schools are not even teaching it anymore, so there is no criteria to measure quality... people pass absolutely horrible prints off as art and brag about using a roll of film, dust spots and sprocket marks are now a sign of authenticity rather than incompetence.

Same thing happened with Wet Plate printing 100 years ago... if you see a master print from the late 1800s the collidion pours are perfect and the plates are very even and clean. But today, the fine "artists" can't manage to do nearly as well and they go out of their way to muck it up, add twigs and lice to the emulsion... because they are too lazy to do it right IMHO. Then they call it art instead of what it really is... BS. This is what is happening with film photography as it becomes a novelty and artistic tic.

As for 35mm film, I had the revelation that the only reason I was using it was for the pleasure of handling a lovely old Leica or maybe getting something funky out of a Nikon, which wasn't much different than using an Instagram filter except that the dust and scratches were organic. Frankly it seems rather pointless to use 35mm film at all, once you get over the loss of using those wonderful old cameras. But you can always dry fire them without ammo ;-p
 
Recently, I have been shooting with Ilford XP2 (35mm and 120), then batch it up to a couple of rolls and send them all to lab for development. I got back the negatives and a CD with medium resolution scans.

Then the real fun begins, pick the image I like, look at the negative, and print in the darkroom.
 
I'm completely in love with the *idea* of a "purist" approach (B&W film, process at home, contact sheets and final prints in the darkroom) and that's what I do, mostly.

I'm sometimes less in love with the actual mechanics of all that purism. Reason being is that I'm a terrible printer. My darkroom work is barely passable, but I've not given up. I'm now looking for someone or some group to mentor me in person because I've read all the books and still suck at it.

Still, even a mediocre "real" darkroom print means more to me than a technically excellent inkjet image.
 
. . . I'm sometimes less in love with the actual mechanics of all that purism. . . . .
Same here, but fortunately I've been in love with my printer for over 30 years. I taught her to print shortly after we were married and now she's far better at it than I. It's "her" darkroom now, not "mine" or even "our". In a few minutes she should be home from Martaizé where she has an exhibition of hand-coloured prints on Ilford Art 300 in the Salle des Fetes.

Cheers,

R.
 
I develop my own b&w, scan on an Epson V500 flatbed scanner, and post process using an ancient version of photoshop. I have a small Canon printer, but if I want to do enlargements over 8x10 I take a CD with the image in a .tif format to a local lab.
 
For b/w, I process myself. I scan the negatives for web posting, but when I want serious prints, I go back into my darkroom and make enlargements on fiber-based paper. I can go as large as 16x20 at home. For color, I have a lab develop the film, and then I scan and print digitally. Home wet darkroom color (especially given my volume) is rarely practical and never economical, and my darkroom doesn't have good enough ventilation for running C41 either. Also, now with the papers that are available for inkjet printing, you can get surfaces and paper weights never available in the wet darkroom days that bring the quality of fiber-based silver gelatin b/w papers to color printing.
 
I have my negatives developed at a local lab, mostly black and white, mostly 400 ISO.
Then I scan them using a dslr and an enlarger as a copy-stand.
Processing the negatives is a (expletive deleted) hassle, as the files require quite a bit of adjustment while they are still negative. Gives more leeway when processing the positives. But the sliders don't do quite the same things to a negative as they do to a positive image : blacks are of course whites, but I have to use exposure to set the white point, and brightness to set the exposure. Confusing.
The dslr (a nikon D3100), while a competent camera, I cannot use when I'm out shooting. It's too big, too monstrous. The M3 can be hidden under my arm, or sitting in my hand.
So I'm stuck with film processing, which I find a bit 'too much work', and expensive to boot.
 
It's been a long time since I did my own processing and printing. Thinking about starting up again.

Can someone tell me the advantages of shooting film, having it scanned, and printing from scans? It seems to defeat the purpose. Why not just shoot digital?
 
I shoot Tri-X (though I'm thinking of switching to FP4+) and develop at home, then scan to upload to Flickr. I don't want to print anymore, so I'll go to a lab if I have something "worthy of the wall."
 
Why not just shoot digital?

I would have replied "indeed" until, believe it or not, a few minutes ago. I've been messing around with Minox 8x11 in a very desultory manner over the last few months and finally got a film developed, using the Minox "daylight" tank (a sorry, sad tale in itself).

Anyway, the negs were terrible and I took it into my head to look at them under a microscope. That's when the difference between film and digital came home to me. Instead of the steady march of pixels across the image, there's a chaotic assemblage of black silver grains scattered in the gelatin.

I've been taking photographs for nearly fifty years and a peripatetic computer tech for thirty five and I've finally "got" the difference between digital and and chemical imaging.

So, you really can teach some old dogs new tricks.

😀
 
Does scanning the film maintain the "chaotic assemblage"?

Although I can certainly develop the film myself, I gather having it developed and scanned at the same time is less expensive than developing it yourself and having it scanned afterwards. Can you recommend a processor?

Can you also recommend a scanning service for color negatives and color slides.

Finally, is film for the Minox still available. I think I have one of the spy cameras in the attic somewhere.

Thanks.
 
I develop my film at home myself. I used to shoot alot of E6 when I was into landscape shooting, but nowadays I shoot B&W and C41 as my subject matter has changed significantly; now I do mainly street photography, documentary and a bit of landscape. I have found that Fuji Pro 400H is a very good emulson for even landscape photography, so I rarely shoot Velvia 50 or 100 these days.

When the negatives are developed, I will edit directly from the negatives and get 4"x6" prints made at the local lab of the images that make the first cut. From there, I will have low-res scans made of the images that will go on my website. The best images will go to my printer, who will make hi-res scans of them and create my framed display prints.
 
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