Your personal definition of art

Murchu said:
Reminds me of David Hurns/ Bill Jays definition of a good photograph - one that goes straight to the heart, and takes its time working its way to your brain :)
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I read that book recently and enjoyed it. I think Hurns has a rather narrow definition of a successful photograph, emphasising people.
 
Sometimes it's easier to answer in the negative: anything by Damien Hirst is disqualified. I like Edmund Capon's statement that good art is like a stick of dynamite.
 
Interesting question. :D

I have my own expanded concept of art:

It only can be art - if no one wants to buy it.
Otherwise its just opportunistic craft...
:p
 
The Odeon always is consistent. Last time I was there I had fried skate. Tasty.

The best deal on steak in Manhattan is El Quijote. Better than the big steakhouses and much cheaper.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-quijote-bar-and-restaurant-new-york-2

But if it's meat you want, you got to go out to "the country":

http://www.yelp.com/biz/chivito-de-oro-jackson-heights#query:brains

That grilled steak there is "art". Get the morcilla and calf's brains too.

Ansel Adams is excellent craftsmanship, but he doesn't ring my bell. More like tourist poster art in a 1960's head shop. HOWEVER, I very much like his documentary Manzanar internment camp photos. He was better with people photos than the gimmicky pictures of clouds and mountains.

The stupidest "art" deal I never made was when some guy came to my office in the late 1970's and offered me not one but TWO of those original Diane Arbus boxed sets for $3000. I thought it was way too much and turned them down. I think they sell for a few million apiece now. (I did get some good EC comic cover art and a bunch of original "Little Nemo" strips. They haven't lost me any money. But I'm a heathen.)

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It is hard to find a good strip steak, had an awful one recently at Pastis but always get good ones a the Odeon. Go figure.

I always look at Ansel Adams when I get a chance (MoMA) but they never work for me, but I have not given up yet.
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ferider said:
What is the difference between artistic, artfully and artificial ?
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I'm not sure about the last of the three, but I would regard artistic and artfully as ways to describe craftsmanship/ craft. For example, there are plenty of things I may be able to do artfully or artistically, but it does not mean the end product of my efforts is a piece of art.
 
ferider said:
How about "The Art of War" ? Or for that matter "The Art of Baseball" (http://artofbaseball.net) ?
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Well, for me, it comes back to the difference between being able to do something artfully and those same efforts resulting in the creation of art. For me, referring to the art of this or the art of that, is either a reference to the mastery of a craft, or as a compliment to the person in question, ie like saying he was an artist with a football, or baseball was an art for him, etc.
 
At work, we draw integrated circuits. We call that "artwork".

Art means many different things; what specifically is context dependent. I like the thesaurus list:

1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.
2.
  • The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
  • The study of these activities.
  • The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
3. High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; aesthetic value.
4. A field or category of art, such as music, ballet, or literature.
5. A nonscientific branch of learning; one of the liberal arts.
6.
  • A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set of activities: the art of building.
  • A trade or craft that applies such a system of principles and methods: the art of the lexicographer.
7.
  • Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art.
  • Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties: "Self-criticism is an art not many are qualified to practice" (Joyce Carol Oates).
8.
  • arts Artful devices, stratagems, and tricks.
  • Artful contrivance; cunning.
9. Printing Illustrative material.
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Nothing more to be said, really.

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