danielsterno
making soup from mud
All:
another what seems to be an anticlimactic camera announcement, x100f http://www.fujirumors.com/leaked-fujifilm-x100f-x-t20-press-photos/
your thoughts? For me its a considerable upgrade being I am on the x100(though still love it) warts and all for my only digital, thinking a little about XP2 instead..... your thoughts, thanks in advance Dan
another what seems to be an anticlimactic camera announcement, x100f http://www.fujirumors.com/leaked-fujifilm-x100f-x-t20-press-photos/
your thoughts? For me its a considerable upgrade being I am on the x100(though still love it) warts and all for my only digital, thinking a little about XP2 instead..... your thoughts, thanks in advance Dan
SaveKodak
Well-known
I think the X100 concept has run it's course. I loved the original despite it's flaws. The later models improved a lot, and really matured with the X100T, but the XTrans is a mess of a sensor and a fatal flaw that could have been easily avoided. Now that the AF and viewfinder tech have improved as far as they have, this is a perfect opportunity to introduce a proper 24x36 X100 with a 35/2. Sony made it work, Leica made something very similar work, now Fuji should do the same. I don't even think they need to make a FF XPro or XT cam, obviously they're invested in their lens line up and they have a GFX coming. But currently they have nothing to offer the middle of the high end market. They're saying if you want to use Fuji you should either buy somewhat expensive crop cameras, or extremely expensive MFD cameras. I don't really want either. But I'd love a fixed lens X100FF with a 35/2 and a modern BSI sensor.
twopointeight
Well-known
If the sensor is the same as the XP2 and XT2 which I am alreadt invested in, then I will definately buy the x100f, just for something smaller to walk around with, and additional backup for work.
tbhv55
Well-known
I can't say that I'd agree with that, but...I think the X100 concept has run it's course.
... I can say that I'd agree with this!But I'd love a fixed lens X100FF with a 35/2 and a modern BSI sensor.
mervynyan
Mervyn Yan
I don't even think they need to make a FF XPro or XT cam, obviously they're invested in their lens line up and they have a GFX coming.
What's the status on this?
SaveKodak
Well-known
What's the status on this?
If you're referring to the GFX, there will be a pricing an availability announcement on Thursday or Friday of this week. A body and lens will set you back about $7500 bucks according to the rumors. Spicy meatball.
fireblade
Vincenzo.
Unless Fuji goes FF with the X100 series it's just like eating spaghetti every day. The original X100 is still plenty of camera.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
If it comes with hard stops and focus scale, I'm in.
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
I have the X100T. Great little camera -- I like the layout and the customization options. It's a camera that I frequently "throw in the bag" for a walk-around. I've consistently been amazed with the IQ from the X100T, it's really good. The AF is fast, the macro function is easy to use, the fixed lens is excellent.
FWIW I also own a (used) Leica M240 and I did a lens shoot-out between the X100T and the M240 with a Summicron 35/2. The Leica was a bit better overall -- especially in the corners. But I was comparing oranges to pineapples, therefore it was more of a curiosity exercise.
Can't say I'm excessively thrilled with the new Fuji X100F, I don't think there's enough "wow" factor to make me want to upgrade. If it was FF with a true 35/2 fixed Fujinon lens, then I would be interested. But I'll wait for the early-adopters on the X100F and see what they find out.
FWIW I also own a (used) Leica M240 and I did a lens shoot-out between the X100T and the M240 with a Summicron 35/2. The Leica was a bit better overall -- especially in the corners. But I was comparing oranges to pineapples, therefore it was more of a curiosity exercise.
Can't say I'm excessively thrilled with the new Fuji X100F, I don't think there's enough "wow" factor to make me want to upgrade. If it was FF with a true 35/2 fixed Fujinon lens, then I would be interested. But I'll wait for the early-adopters on the X100F and see what they find out.
RedLion
Come to the Faire
On the Fuji Rumors site, it says it will come with a focus lever. I wonder how that's going to work?
aizan
Veteran
If it comes with hard stops and focus scale, I'm in.
this x100.
recipe for GAS:
1) full frame (aps-c is fine by me, though)
2) focusing tab as in leica q
3) new optical formula
otherwise, it's really nice!
user237428934
User deletion pending
On the Fuji Rumors site, it says it will come with a focus lever. I wonder how that's going to work?
It doesn't have to really work. As long as it's retro enough, people will buy (or upgrade).
Manual focus with X100 models is slower compared to a real rangefinder mechanism. They sell a retro feeling.
gavinlg
Veteran
It doesn't have to really work. As long as it's retro enough, people will buy (or upgrade).
Manual focus with X100 models is slower compared to a real rangefinder mechanism. They sell a retro feeling.
I dont know... I'm pretty quick with the split screen manual focus in the Fujis... They're less to do with being retro and more to do with being ergonomically useful.
Dogman
Veteran
I'll reserve judgement for at least a year or so. I'm not an early adopter. Right now, I have two X100S cameras and I love the things. I have no quarrel with anything about them. When the X100T came along, I looked closely but didn't see enough improvement in features or quality to warrant adopting the new camera.
What might sway me to buying a new model X100? Quality is excellent as is but an uptick in resolution with an improved sensor and/or processor might do it. An even better lens could do it as well but it would have to quite a step up in quality. I don't need or want a lot of the features some people go gaga about. I like capability with simplicity. That's the real appeal of the X100 series.
What might sway me to buying a new model X100? Quality is excellent as is but an uptick in resolution with an improved sensor and/or processor might do it. An even better lens could do it as well but it would have to quite a step up in quality. I don't need or want a lot of the features some people go gaga about. I like capability with simplicity. That's the real appeal of the X100 series.
Unless Fuji goes FF with the X100 series it's just like eating spaghetti every day. The original X100 is still plenty of camera.
Huh? Maybe on paper for spec chasers, but its a completely useful camera that will allow you to make wonderful photos.
On the Fuji Rumors site, it says it will come with a focus lever. I wonder how that's going to work?
Where? I don't see this and the photos clearly show no focus lever.
EDIT: Yeah, I see where they mention that. Weird.
willie_901
Veteran
The X100/T/F family is no different than the Canonet QL-17, Yashica Electro 35 GSN/GTN, Konica Hexar AF, Minolta Hi-Matic E, Olympus Pen, Contax T2, Rollei 35, etc.
You use a fixed lens. The cameras are convenient to keep with you just about wherever you go. Many photographers start to naturally pre-visualize potential photographs with their camera's filed of view.
There was a market for fixed-lens, non-zoom cameras before they were retro. The market may be small, but it still exists.
In the case of Fujifilm I suspect they will continue with the X100 concept for a long time. The X100 is the camera that brought life back to their still digital photography business.
You use a fixed lens. The cameras are convenient to keep with you just about wherever you go. Many photographers start to naturally pre-visualize potential photographs with their camera's filed of view.
There was a market for fixed-lens, non-zoom cameras before they were retro. The market may be small, but it still exists.
In the case of Fujifilm I suspect they will continue with the X100 concept for a long time. The X100 is the camera that brought life back to their still digital photography business.
I agree completely willie_901. I think we get caught up in specs these days (just as computer nerds do), but the X100 series is a classic and is a "if it's not broke, don't fix it" concept. I will be adding it to my X-Pro2 and X-T2.
Richard G
Veteran
Still happy with the original X100. Quick manual change from A and f4 to 1/30s and A for panning a cyclist. The X100 concept has far from had its day.
willie_901
Veteran
.... all for my only digital, thinking a little about XP2 instead..... your thoughts, thanks in advance Dan
This is my dilemma as well. I can't decide.
I have the X100T. It is excellent. I also have a XT-1 and 5 XF prime lenses (14, 18, 28, 35/2 and 56 mm). The XT-1 was used for interiors photography gigs. It is excellent as well.
Yet, some days I want to of send the XT-1, vertical battery grip, X100T, 10-24/4 and 28 XF lenses off to KEH and order a X-Pro 2 and 23/2. I no longer do gigs so the 10-24 lens is redundant. I rarely use the X-T1 these days. I prefer Fujifilm's OVF. I would only have one camera (no back up). I guess my iPhone 7 could fill-in should the X-Pro2 have to be sent off for repair.
Other days I think it's best just to keep what I have. The XT-1 and X100T raw files serve my projects well. I don't plan to make extremely large prints. I do my best to avoid using post-production cropping as a means to achieve composition. The X-100T is a bit more convenient as a daily carry. I have handled the X100 tele-extender lenses. The are tempting because their optical performance is excellent. But I think they compromise camera handling. So, they are not for me.
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