your thought on the x100f coming this week?

I think it would be hard to expect Fuji to implement something like the Leica Q's MF and still keep it at $1299. Also, people tend to compare cameras that are nothing like the X100 to it. The bottom line is that the X100F is unique at its price point whether one finds it useful or not.
 
jsrockit said:
I think it would be hard to expect Fuji to implement something like the Leica Q's MF and still keep it at $1299. Also, people tend to compare cameras that are nothing like the X100 to it. The bottom line is that the X100F is unique at its price point whether one finds it useful or not.
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Leica has lens with hard stops at X, which isn't far away in pricing from $1299. I think, I have seen user added focus lever on it here, on RFF.

Fuji already has 23mm lens with focus scale and DoF scale https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1003764-REG/fujifilm_16405575_xf_23mm_f_1_4_r.html. All they have to do is to implement it on slower 23 much less expensive lens which X100 series have.

With lens like this and something like focus lever of ZM lenses I would pay for it same price as Leica wants for X. Because X is mediocre camera with great lens. But without lens like this, x100f is not worth of $1299 to me.
 
Ko.Fe., it's not the tab that's the issue. It's the focus-by-wire tecnology. There would be no mechanical coupling between the tab location and lens element location. So the same physical point on the lens barrel could correspond to multiple focus distances.

John
 
Do I understand correctly that the focus ring can now be assigned to other functions?
Or is there another ring ?

The lens barrel features the Control Ring in addition to the Aperture Ring. Settings that are frequently used in each of the shooting modes are automatically assigned to the Control Ring. Rotate the Control Ring to quickly change various settings. Functions to be assigned to the Ring may be adjusted by pressing the built-in Control Ring Settings button into Viewfinder selector at the front of the camera body. Assign any function without any restrictions, such as ISO sensitivity and Film Simulation.
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Ko.Fe. said:
Leica has lens with hard stops at X, which isn't far away in pricing from $1299. I think, I have seen user added focus lever on it here, on RFF.
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The X series doesn't even have a focus ring. In regards to the rest of it, johnwolf explained why Fuji cannot do what you want cheaply.
 
Do'h, he did not.... Fuji 23mm 1.4 lens comes with focus scale and DoF marks. I don't know how 23 1.4 Fuji made, but it has what I want from X100 23mm lens and at max of f2 it is not expensive to make as f1.4 lens. Leica X camera lens is focus by wire, but has focus stops.
 
Its not the Fly-by-wire coupling so much, which can be quite fast depending on the implementation, but the fact that there are no hard stops and distance indicators on the lens itself. So quickly checking/changing your focus can only be done while looking through the viewfinder/LCD and that is against the whole analog philosophy that X series have.
They have done it on some of their lenses, I am sure it can be done in the X100 series as well. Maybe it would add a bit more bulk on the lens and that might be the reason they are not doing it.
 
Ko.Fe. said:
Leica X camera lens is focus by wire, but has focus stops.
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Which cameras are you talking about? X1, X2, etc had a dial on the back of the camera. Oh I see, you mean the type 113. Yes, it did but was also twice as much as the X100 when released.
 
Digital Teleconverter?

Digital Teleconverter?

Manual focus, focus selectors, joysticks, focus-by-wire, etc., are all moot points for me since I use none of them. As long as I can use the center AF sensor to focus, lock it and recompose, I'm good. All the fiddling with focus apparatuses just gets in the way. I've yet to lose a picture due to the AF on the X100S.

I'm more interested in the design of the digital teleconverter function. I wonder if it can only be used with JPEGs or does it also crop Raw images as well. The Ricoh GRII (my other favorite compact) does a great job with giving good files when cropping the 28mm view to 35mm but less so with the 47mm option. And it works in both JPEG and Raw. With the higher resolution sensor of the X100F, I can see excellent utility in a single camera with built in three lens kit using this feature. But only if it works with Raw files as well as JPEGs.
 
f16sunshine said:
Do I understand correctly that the focus ring can now be assigned to other functions?
Or is there another ring ?
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Anyone understand how this works?
I don't see another ring on the lens barrel. Is it just the front of the lens?
If yes how will it work with a shade?
Apparently the X70 has a similar feature. Could someone explain how that works.
Thanks

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Dogman said:
... And it works in both JPEG and Raw. With the higher resolution sensor of the X100F, I can see excellent utility in a single camera with built in three lens kit using this feature. But only if it works with Raw files as well as JPEGs.
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If you shoot raw you need anyway to process your files and in this case I think you can crop directly on the computer. Or do I miss something ?

robert
 
Ko.Fe. said:
Do'h, he did not.... Fuji 23mm 1.4 lens comes with focus scale and DoF marks.
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and it is a separate design to a fix lens camera. The 23mm on the X100 is partially inside the camera. None of us stated they couldn't do it. We said you cannot expect it in a $1299 fixed lens camera that is foremost an AF camera.
 
jsrockit said:
I think it would be hard to expect Fuji to implement something like the Leica Q's MF and still keep it at $1299. Also, people tend to compare cameras that are nothing like the X100 to it. The bottom line is that the X100F is unique at its price point whether one finds it useful or not.
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Maybe on the shelf in a camera store it's unique, but overall it's not actually without peer in the market as a whole, which is why it seems overpriced to some.

APSC Fixed lens wide angles bring in the Coolpix A, GR/GRII X70 (yes they're all 28mm as opposed to 35, but they offer similar performance, and at the cost of some MP they all have a 35mm crop function (I think).

The preorder price for the X100f at a very reputable camera store here is £1,149. For £100 more I can have a used Sony RX1.

For a LOT less I can have a Canon Eos 100d and the 24mm 2.8 pancake, which gives me a 38mm fov, is 1.6cm taller than the X100 but not as wide

It's an impressive camera, and the EVF is definitely an impressive feature, but probably the one thing that really sets it apart.
 
BlackXList said:
Maybe on the shelf in a camera store it's unique, but overall it's not actually without peer in the market as a whole, which is why it seems overpriced to some.
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It's feature set is unique.

APSC Fixed lens wide angles bring in the Coolpix A, GR/GRII X70 (yes they're all 28mm as opposed to 35, but they offer similar performance, and at the cost of some MP they all have a 35mm crop function (I think).
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No OVF/EVF

The preorder price for the X100f at a very reputable camera store here is £1,149. For £100 more I can have a used Sony RX1.

For a LOT less I can have a Canon Eos 100d and the 24mm 2.8 pancake, which gives me a 38mm fov, is 1.6cm taller than the X100 but not as wide

It's an impressive camera, and the EVF is definitely an impressive feature, but probably the one thing that really sets it apart.
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Well, sure if you want just a camera, you can find a better deal...but it won't offer the uniqueness of the X100F. If you can't tell what makes it unique, then it simply isn't for you.
 
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