zeiss ikon m survey

[Huck Finn]

But if you compare it to an M3, M2, M4, M6, MP or M7, let's talk again in 5 years. Not to mention in 50 years...

Uhh . . . I think that the only comparison being made in this thread was regarding weight & it was only between the ZI & the M3 - & that was only to use the M3 as a point of reference.

So, I think that the answer is . . . No, nobody wants to get into a pissing match to compare the ZI with the long list of Leicas which are mentioned & which vary in weight & build quality among themselves without even mentioning the differences with a ZI.

 

[Mazurka]

Actually, I would buy a new m7 now, to go with my existing leica system knowing that it will (most likely) last 50 years, or at least as long as I want it,

Do you truly believe that 50 years from now:

1) the electronics in the M7 will still be working, or those parts and the batteries they need will still be available, and

2) Leica will be in business to CLA/repair your cameras, or

3) There will still be technicians to service your Leicas, and

4) Film and processing will still be available, and

5) You will be alive and have eyesight good enough to use your Leicas?

Oh, I see the escape clause: "or at least as long as I want it." So exactly how long do you want it? 😛

There can be a lot of reasons not to buy the Zeiss Ikon, but the "50 year lifespan" is not one of those.

 

[iDude]

So, I think that the answer is . . . No, nobody wants to get into a pissing match to compare the ZI with the long list of Leicas which are mentioned & which vary in weight & build quality among themselves without even mentioning the differences with a ZI.

What exactly is a "pissing match"? And to what question is this the answer?

And to Mazurka: You're an absolute genius. You just solved all my problems. Thanks to you I finally know what camera to get right now: An all mechanical digital camera. Unless I'm over 30, of course. Brilliant.

 

[SDK]

There are different kinds of pissing matches: to see who can pee for the longest time, who can jet the farthest, etc. Pissing contests are best done in the outdoors on a nice hiking trail and not by your computer keyboard, whose electronics might not approve of being spattered with salty, corrosive urine. 😉

 

[ZeissFan]

"A pissing match" is a nasty exchange over differences in opinion.

Often, but not always, it occurs of small details that don't really matter.

Regarding the use of plastic in the Zeiss Ikon, I notice that Zeiss chose materials carefully and didn't simply use plastic because it was cheaper. There is limited use of plastic in parts that can be seen by the eye. The sprocket wheel and film takeup spool are plastic, which shouldn't be a problem, unless you have the back open and drop the camera.

I thought I would use a screwdriver to scratch parts to see if it's plastic or metal, but that's just insanity.

What is interesting is that people will gladly spend $1,500 on a digital body, knowing in advance that they're probably going to replace it in three or four years.

But they wouldn't spend half of that on a film body and if they did, there is an expectation that it should last 50 years.

 

[Nachkebia]

ZeissFan ! where are the updates? waiting for new pictures! 🙂

 

[Carrotblog]

20% with problems so far???

20% with problems so far???

Hi,

I'm looking at the poll results and wondering.

So far, it looks like 20% of owners have had problems with the Zeiss Ikon. Of those who filled out this survey.


Has anyone with a Zeiss Ikon had a chance to compare it to the Voigtlander R2M?

I like the idea of the R2M which seems to have the same finish as the Zeiss Ikon.

xoxoxoxo

Miffy

http://carrotblog.livejournal.com

 

[back alley]

delrin?

joe

 

[jano]

that 20% number is poor representation, I wouldn't base my decision off a poll like this.

 

[back alley]

it was never meant to be very scientific...

 

[jano]

Joe, my response was to Miffy who seemed to take this seriously. It's obvious this was a curiosity poll 🙂 Afterall, I voted on it way back when first posted, and since then, I've yet to have a problem.

 

[back alley]

no worries jano🙂

 

[Carrotblog]

Joe, my response was to Miffy who seemed to take this seriously. It's obvious this was a curiosity poll Afterall, I voted on it way back when first posted, and since then, I've yet to have a problem.
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lol!

Hi Jano - I was just wondering, that's all.

You must be 1 person of the other 80% who didn't have problems then.

I don't think Joe intended for a scientific poll - this is a forum after all. It's just useful to hear from forum members, since this is a better representation of forum users's responses to a camera. Where else will photographers get reliability data? It's not going to come from the manufacturer! It might come from their competition (!) and any journalistic bias is only ever going to represent the 1 camera submitted to the magazine.

RFF does a great job of pulling in mass opinions where opinions like this would be harder to find elsewhere so thumbs up to RFF. All you need is a decent mouse to scroll through the data and sorted 😉


xoxoxoxo

Miffy

http://carrotblog.livejournal.com

 

[jano]

😉 Yeup!

message too short, tweedle dum tweedle dee!

 

[Nachkebia]

Btw I think I have problem with ZI, I will confirm the problem after couple of more rolls, problem is that on almost all of the rolls I shot two frames are on one frame! I mean as if I did not roll the film and took second exposition, even thought it has moved sligtly..

 

[Avotius]

🙁 I was a black zeiss ikon owner and I had a problem within the first 2 minutes. The shutter jammed. Now I am no longer a Zeiss Ikon owner....

 

[rxmd]

Less than zero problems.

Does that mean that when you and your friend with the broken ZI put your ZIs together on a table, you find that neither of your ZIs is broken at all?

I wonder how many negative problems your ZI has... You could make a fortune repairing ZIs 🙂

 

[Dougg]

Wonder if there are any Zeiss Ikon owners who have not had an opportunity for problems due to lack of use; the camera is kept on a shelf or in its box only for fondling, showing to admiring friends, etc. Surely so small a minority not justified for a position on the poll... 🙂

 

[grantray]

If the poll would let me, I would switch my answer from no problems in three months to no problems after six months. And that's heavy use. A day rarely goes by that I'm not lugging it around the city with me.

-grant

 

[rsh]

I really like the Zeiss Camera and Lenses. They are quality products that will bring years of great photography to whomever owns them.

As it is, I will stick with what I have.

The next camera I buy will be the M8 at which point I will retire the M5's and MP to a display case. Of all the Leica's I have owned over the years, the M5 has been the most durable and a workhorse.