furcafe
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If you don't care about perfect cosmetics, which are rarely an issue w/these lenses anyway, & don't want to deal w/Soviet quality control issues, it is possible to get the CZJ 50/1.5 Sonnars in LTM for significant less than $400 on the 'bay (@ least I did), more like $250-300. The focus mounts may be stiff & the alloy barrels haven't aged well, but the optics usually hold up as the Zeiss coatings were tough, not like Leitz, & the pre-war & wartime glass seem to have fewer separation issues than some of their post-WWII W. German descendants.
Brian Sweeney said:
Furcafe, I see the one on ebay now (actually there are a couple but one looks to be genuine, you know the one 
) In addition to the serial number and shape of the lens barrel, what do you look for to verify that one is infact a Zeiss lens and not a J3 with a Zeiss filter ring?
) In addition to the serial number and shape of the lens barrel, what do you look for to verify that one is infact a Zeiss lens and not a J3 with a Zeiss filter ring?scottgee1
RF renegade
So Oleg is of the 'It's too nice to use" school? Reminds me a bit of some former in-laws . . . they have a boat, but rarely use it because "gas costs too much".
I just sent a note to Oleg asking for clarification with an offer to buy it IF it's clean and working well and will work correctly with my R2.
Will keep you-all posted and thanks for your insights!/ScottGee1
I just sent a note to Oleg asking for clarification with an offer to buy it IF it's clean and working well and will work correctly with my R2.
Will keep you-all posted and thanks for your insights!/ScottGee1
jdos2 said:
jdos2
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That's my interpretation of him- if he has a piece of gear he really likes, he's a bit protective of it, and that's what it sounds to me.
I asked him for a Sputnik once, and we had a good conversation about it. For $100, I'd have a fully flocked and adjusted stereo camera... Well, not today.
I'm glad Oleg is over there, filtering out the garbage!
I asked him for a Sputnik once, and we had a good conversation about it. For $100, I'd have a fully flocked and adjusted stereo camera... Well, not today.
I'm glad Oleg is over there, filtering out the garbage!
scottgee1
RF renegade
While we were talking about it, someone else bought it!
Sheesh!/ScottGee1
Sheesh!/ScottGee1
No way! It wasn't me.
I don't know though about that "It's too good" theory. Really now, it is a $125 lens. True it may be collectible and worth $125 even if it won't work on a standard LTM camera, but come on now, too good to use? Should I put my Summicron on a shelf?
I don't know though about that "It's too good" theory. Really now, it is a $125 lens. True it may be collectible and worth $125 even if it won't work on a standard LTM camera, but come on now, too good to use? Should I put my Summicron on a shelf?
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taffer
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Me neither !
Fun though, I went to a collection store here in BCN to see if they could help me check something on my recently acquired Canon 7, the gentleman there helped me a lot but just before leaving he told me 'you know, these kind of cameras are collection pieces, they are not meant to be used now'.
With all respect, I couldn't disagree more with him.
Fun though, I went to a collection store here in BCN to see if they could help me check something on my recently acquired Canon 7, the gentleman there helped me a lot but just before leaving he told me 'you know, these kind of cameras are collection pieces, they are not meant to be used now'.
With all respect, I couldn't disagree more with him.
furcafe
Veteran
There's no way to be sure short of showing it to an expert, as I certainly don't have the expertise to make that assessment. I can only compare the pix w/what I've seen in my books & w/the (IMHO) genuine 1 I already have. Re: fakes, my feeling is that if someone w/the skills has enough time & energy to fake something, then you really can't stop them from fooling even the experts, @ some of the time (I'm thinking of all the counterfeit Vermeers & Rembrandts, etc. that were purchased by major museums). Serial #s, engraving fonts, component shapes, etc. are just clues & have to be considered in their totality. I just bid w/the risk kof forgery in mind!
rover said:Furcafe, I see the one on ebay now (actually there are a couple but one looks to be genuine, you know the one
peter_n
Veteran
That email from Oleg to Scott actually answered the question I had about my J-8 - the lack of "ears" on the aperture ring is apparently a drawback. Actually I have to say that I kind of like it...
I did not buy the lens; but you can be sure that someone reading this thread did.
Cameras and lenses are meant to be used. My Canon 7 gets a lot of film shot through it, as does the M3/M2, and SP/S3. Some cameras are way up there in price, but a $125 Sonnar should get used.
Cameras and lenses are meant to be used. My Canon 7 gets a lot of film shot through it, as does the M3/M2, and SP/S3. Some cameras are way up there in price, but a $125 Sonnar should get used.
peter_n
Veteran
Wasn't me either!scottgee1 said:
scottgee1
RF renegade
Brian Sweeney said:
Yeah, c'mon, 'fess up!!
I quite agree that the gear is made to be used (except for that commemorative stuff . . . ) but the collectors obviously disagree and drive up prices on the rest of us.
That said, I suspect Oleg's perspective on this is very different than mine. That $125 lens was one of the most expensive he offers.
Ah well!/ScottGee1