ZI plus Nokton 35mm F1.2, anyone?

Some flare samples of the 35 sumicron asph

Ciao

Joerg
 

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Two more...
The second image shows severe haze....it was a bright and sunny day:D
 

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Joerg said:
Two more...
The second image shows sever haze....it was a bright and sunny day:D
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Wow that second one has some serious haze. :D

The others look like what I'm experiencing but to a slightly lesser degree. I also have two sets of images with the typical circular aperture pattern flare spot in the frame and the other set had a slightly bowed line through the frame unlike anything I've seen in 40 years. I will post one tomorrow and see what you guys say, I suspect it caused by internal reflections from somewhere, who knows where. My first thought was from the brass focusing cam at the back of the lens but can't be certain.

Just when you think you've got everything figured out something nasty happens like this.:bang:

In the past few months I purchased a 35 and 25 Biogon and a 50 Planar. I was absolutely sold on the Biogons but the more I use the Planar the more I like it better than the 50 asph summilux too. Both lenses are tack sharp but the Planar is so much smoother in tonality. I really love the look and have been thinking of selling the summilux. The asph summilux is a sharp and flare resistant lens but the Planar produces a more classic image with the clean look of a modern lens, low flare and sharp to the edges. Since purchasing my 90 apo asph I've been a bit disappointed with it's flare problems much like the asph 35 summicron and the poor closre range performance. All in all I think Leica is making sharp lenses but failing in the flare controll department. If the 85 Sonnar proves to be as good as I think the 90 AA will be on the auction block soon after getting one.
 
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Joerg said:
Two more...
The second image shows severe haze....it was a bright and sunny day:D
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Hi Joerg,

looks like it was a cold day. So maybe the haze on the 2nd one is from fogging, breath or body heat ?

Just a thought,

Roland.
 
I like a small dose of flare if looks like it belongs in the picture. The flare shown by Joerg, however, wrecks the entire scene. Yuck!
 
Joerg said:
The second image shows severe haze....it was a bright and sunny day:D
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[ looks like it was a cold day. So maybe the haze on the 2nd one is from fogging, breath or body heat ?

Just a thought,

Roland.]

Hi,

just to clarify the second image actually shows fogg coming up the mountain finding its way through a group of trees.
I thought I lighten up the haze discussion.....;)

i really love the lens otherwise, but was a little surprised to see this flaring. i will have to be more careful next time.....

Ciao

joerg
 
telenous said:
About the Summilux 35 Asph: I don't think it is a flare prone lens. I have been using it day-in, day-out for almost a year, with UV filter and without hood, in daylight as well as adverse night conditions, and it behaves admirably [snip]
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This is my experience too. I have a UV filter and a very short 3rd party WA hood on the lens (see pic.) and the lens has been great.
 

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So I had a chance to go through all my pics from my recent trip and it appears that the 35/2 asph flare was only showing when shooting with a lot of snow in the pic. Pics taken against the sun without reflective white areas (snow) did not exhibit any flare.
So it shows only in very specific situations, something I can live with for now....

Ciao

Joerg
 
The choosen one.

The choosen one.

I've choosen the 35mm F1.2.
I could not believe it.

I went to the store, held both in hands.
And that was it . . . I absolutely loved the Nokton.
I can't wait to shoot this thing.
 
pizzahut88 said:
I've choosen the 35mm F1.2.
I could not believe it.

I went to the store, held both in hands.
And that was it . . . I absolutely loved the Nokton.
I can't wait to shoot this thing.
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So, how did it go!? :) I'm considering this exact combo (ZI & 35mm nokton) to go with my Hexar AF for ultra-low light work, I'd love to hear all about them!

As it is, I'm shooting the hexar at 1600/3200 iso, f2 at between 1/15 to 1/60 much of the time... so something faster is in order!
 
The Nokton Ikon combo

The Nokton Ikon combo

papasnap said:
So, how did it go!? :) I'm considering this exact combo (ZI & 35mm nokton) to go with my Hexar AF for ultra-low light work, I'd love to hear all about them!

As it is, I'm shooting the hexar at 1600/3200 iso, f2 at between 1/15 to 1/60 much of the time... so something faster is in order!
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I have been shooting at various stuff, anything, just to get some samples off this thing.
I will have sample up within these days.

Manfred
 
My impressions . . .

My impressions . . .

papasnap said:
Looks like suitably low light for such a lens :)

What are your impressions now you've got it? Positive?
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Aftering developing another two rolls of film, and scanning it.
I am starting to like this lens very much.

The result could be seen here:
http://viking-manfred.blogspot.com/2007/02/chinese-new-year.html
http://viking-manfred.blogspot.com/2007/02/cherry-blossom-for-sale.html
http://viking-manfred.blogspot.com/2007/02/nokton-1235.html


Here's what I think:
The color of this lens can be quite rich. Saturation is very good overall. Built and finish on this lens is also very nice.

Concening sharpness and boken

At F1.2, overall image is soft. Giving a dreamy effect.
Perhaps best suited for bridal pictues, closer dinner table portrait.
The broken is wonderful, much better than Nokton 40 F1.4.

At F1.4 and F1.7, the lens gives the best balance between sharpness, and oof background. I suspect at this setting, this Nokton will perform almost identical to the Summilux 35 F1.4 Asp. (Version 1990 and version 1994)
Even the lens diagram matches quite closely.
Since the the Summilux is selling for almost 2-3 times more,
I will assume that it is better. But how much better?

Perhaps the lens designer had this criteria in mind. To produce a lens as good as if not better than the Summilux 35 F1.4, which is why they even went one stop further to F1.2.

Since I have both the Nokton 40/1.4 and Nokton 35/1.2
With regard to softness, the Nokton 40 at F1.4 behaves like the Nokton 35 at F1.2.
So I find the Nokton 35 at F1.4 much much more usable.
This will be the setting I use most.

Comparing it to the Carl Zeiss ZM 35/2?
The Zeiss ZM maximum apert is only F2.
The price for the Nokton 35mm F1.2 and Zeiss Biogon 35 F2 is almost identical.
The Nokton has two extra stops.
Zeiss has the better name.
Zeiss is more compact.
It's really tough to choose between the two.
There are valid reasons for both.

Anyway . . . the Nokton 35 F1.2 I think is a keeper.
A lens that will be mentioned in many upcoming camera books.

Manfred
 
Wonderful Manfred, thanks! In the second photo of the Chinese New Year series, with the girl making v-signs, I'm guessing that's shot wide open? I love the way the plants are rendered as they get further out of focus, it's a very distinctive look
 
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