ZM f1.4 35mm?

[rich815]

I just wrote Zeiss and placed my order for the 35/1.4 they have not only not annouced yet but in which there is no concrete evidence they are even thinking about making! If enough of us do this, site unseen, without even knowing if the lens is good or not, or even worth the money, maybe they will make them.

So everyone do as I just did. Send them $1000 with your request and let's see what happens. Heck, maybe they'll even make an uncoated version for that "special" look! Maybe even a "limited" edition!

 

[MikeL]

So everyone do as I just did. Send them $1000 with your request and let's see what happens. Heck, maybe they'll even make an uncoated version for that "special" look! Maybe even a "limited" edition!

Rich, I think a united front would be more effective. I'll collect everyone's cash and then just send a single letter, from all of us.

 

[pfoto]

Dear treasurer, I run a bank so you can deposit the money with me.

 

[kram]

Cheers Cron, and my thoughts as well telenous. After my last post (and after walking the dogs, bleeding the brakes on the wife's car, and cooking the Sunday meal - (sheesh no wonder I don't do much developing these days), I googled the CV 35mm f1.4. Specs for the lens (NOKTON design) 200g, 43mm filter thread, min focus distance 0.7m and it uses 'super high refractive glass'.

Still would like to see A ZM lens though -ah we can dream.

 

[rich815]

Rich, I think a united front would be more effective. I'll collect everyone's cash and then just send a single letter, from all of us.

Sounds good Mike! Ok, I'll meet you at the EC Starbucks and fork over te $1000. In the meantime contact that guy who bought the M6 and tell him you lost it. Then I'll hold on to it until at least the 35/1.4 ZM comes!

 

[Trius]

I don't buy the Zeiss and Cosina won't compete argument. They have "competitive" lenses in other FL, so why not a 35/1.4?

And ... Why not a faster 28 from Zeiss? I can see a market for a 28/2 or 28/1.7.

 

[ferider]

I think KobayashiSan should OEM the new Nokton to Zeiss.
Put a different ring on the front and price it at US 1000.
In addition to selling it as Nokton. Then everybody will be happy.

Nobody knows how the new Nokton will perform. How can we
already prefer a non-existing Zeiss lens ?

A US 1000 Zeiss 50/1.0 Planar with .7m min. focus, now that
would be something ... Or a 28/1.4. Or an 85/2.8, ....

 

[ferider]

There you go And the dollar is falling, too ...

 

[rxmd]

A US 1000 Zeiss 50/1.0 Planar with .7m min. focus, now that
would be something ... Or a 28/1.4. Or an 85/2.8, ....

I think the Zeiss Ikon system isn't complete until it has a mirror box accessory.

Philipp

 

[rich815]

Nobody knows how the new Nokton will perform. How can we
already prefer a non-existing Zeiss lens ?

...

Hmm...good point!

Or get such a woodie for the Nokton for that matter....

 

[noimmunity]

Or an 85/2.8, ....

a marginally slower, more moderately priced m-mount telephoto from zeiss...that sounds like something they might do. (didn't they do that with c/y mount 85s?).

 

[Avotius]

And that was my sad realization. I'd love to see a 35mm f/1.4 Distagon/Biogon without the size increase from the 35mm f/2 Biogon, of course.

I have little faith in most CV lenses for digital; I've tried the 35mm Ultron and the 40mm f/1.4 Nokton on the M8 (as well as the 50 Nokton and 28 Ultron), and while the images are really nice (and hardly any complaints from me when used on film), on digital there's an unacceptable amount of flare in the highlights, and veiling flare in some conditions.

The 35mm f/2 Biogon has wonderful bokeh, excellent resolution, and renders light beautifully, and even flare in awful conditions is handled beautifully. I still have an issue with its size for the type of lens, but I've learned to live with it and not wish it would be something it isn't (namely, the size of a pre-asph 35mm Summicron).

If Zeiss came up with a 35mm f/1.4 lens for M-mount, oh la la.

funny you mentioned that, recently shooting with my cv 35 PII I noticed a lot of situations where there was veiling glare even using the hood and no filter. I though it might have been strange light but I saw it again in another situation , a pity the 35 pII flares in some unexpected places, its a nice lens otherwise. Regardless I still think sooner rather then later it needs to go as I have some handling problems with it, namely in the cold winter of china I swear the thing is getting harder and harder to focus as the temp goes down farther and farther.

 

[rich815]

funny you mentioned that, recently shooting with my cv 35 PII I noticed a lot of situations where there was veiling glare even using the hood and no filter. I though it might have been strange light but I saw it again in another situation , a pity the 35 pII flares in some unexpected places, its a nice lens otherwise. Regardless I still think sooner rather then later it needs to go as I have some handling problems with it, namely in the cold winter of china I swear the thing is getting harder and harder to focus as the temp goes down farther and farther.

This was one issue I had with my 40/1.4 Nokton too. The focus feel would change with the temperature, getting a bit harder to turn when cold, and what was worse it would sometimes feel like it was a bit more torqued at near focus and at infinity with in between being easier and more smooth. And I bought it new.

 

[awilder]

I don't want to shill Leica gear but if you must have a 35/1.4, get the Summillux ASPH. for top quality. I suspect the CV will have a bit of comatic aberration as the optical layout is simmilar to the early Summicron and Summilux (double Gauss) and unfortunately there's no free lunch on high speed wide angles. The Nokton 35/1.2 is certainly worth a look too if funds are an issue.

 

[Sofa King]

I don't want to shill Leica gear but if you must have a 35/1.4, get the Summillux ASPH. for top quality.

I hate when people say things like this... not everyone can afford that and not everyone wants the gigantic 35 Nokton. I'm 20 years old living on my own and going to school so I definitely can't afford a lux, but I'd probably be able to afford a Zeiss equivalent. That's why people hope for things like this rather than just going out and dropping three grand on a Lux.

 

[ferider]

Hmm...good point!

Or get such a woodie for the Nokton for that matter....

Not really interested in your sexual excitement, Rich

My point was more that even if a Zeiss 35/1.4 is being developed, it will be most likely
built by Cosina. There will be technology sharing just as between ZI and Bessa bodies
(check out the shutters).

Roland.

 

[rxmd]

I don't want to shill Leica gear but if you must have a 35/1.4, get the Summillux ASPH. for top quality.

I love it when people are dissing a lens that isn't even on the market yet, suggesting alternatives that cost six times as much, and all on the basis of a superficial inspection of a schematic lens diagram.

Philipp

 

[back alley]

rollie, i think the wood was pointed at everyone in the thread, not just at you...

it is kinda strange that this lens has generated so much buzz here at rff and not so much on the other forums.
for me, i was all excited right off the bat whch tells me that i should be shooting my 35's more and stop messin' around with the other focal lengths so much.

 

[back alley]

I love it when people are dissing a lens that isn't even on the market yet, suggesting alternatives that cost six times as much, and all on the basis of a superficial inspection of a schematic lens diagram.

Philipp

do they really say 'dissing' in germany ?

my beef is that so many others assume that we all want leica gear and those who don't have it just can't afford it. i've had leica metal and glass and it just doesn't do it for me, no malicious intent directed towards anyone. i like what i like, plain & simple.

 

[rxmd]

do they really say 'dissing' in germany ?

They do. Well to be honest I picked it up from my soldiers.

I have no idea if it is an English word though. I'm improvising somewhat when I speak English.