Chasing my first M

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Howdy Leica-nites, I've been overcome by an irresistable urge for an M camera recently. I want metering but don't need AE so I've tentatively settled on the M6. I like 28 to 50 lens wise and wear glasses. I was figuring the .58 finder would be the best bet but would like some advise on that.

I can live with guestimating 28 with the .85 finder.

Would there be any advantages in favor of the .85 over the .58?

Is flare really that much of a problem with the .85

Will the .85 focus more accurately out towards 50mm than the .58?

Should I be considering any other models....my price target is around $1300-1600.

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
csxcnj said:
Should I be considering any other models....my price target is around $1300-1600.?.
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How about the standard .72 ? Your budget should get you a late model.

Best,

Roland.
 
I have a .85 and can't see how it's possible to guess the 28 on it. I use 35 50 75 with a .85 and the 35 is a push.
The .85 realy only makes sense if your a 50-135 shooter, for wider lenses it doesn't really work.
 
How about the standard .72 ? Your budget should get you a late model.

Best,

Roland.



Hmmm, now there's a thought.


I have a .85 and can't see how it's possible to guess the 28 on it. I use 35 50 75 with a .85 and the 35 is a push.
The .85 realy only makes sense if your a 50-135 shooter, for wider lenses it doesn't really work.

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Thank you
 
Love the color scheme. 😉 No but seriously I would definately say at least go for .72. .58 sounds like it might be better for you if you are a glasses wearer... but then again I have never used a .58 so I dont know. Others can give you better feedback.
 
I have both a .72 M6 and .85 M6TTL and wear glasses. I have no trouble shooting with a 35 mm mounted on the .85; frame lines are still rendered fine. A 28 mm would just mean that what you see in the VF is basically what you'll capture on film (not exactly but pretty close). Here's a link to what looks like a very clean M6TTL on ebay in case you're interested.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Leica-Leitz-M6-T...ryZ30030QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
jbf said:
Love the color scheme. 😉 No but seriously I would definately say at least go for .72. .58 sounds like it might be better for you if you are a glasses wearer... but then again I have never used a .58 so I dont know. Others can give you better feedback.
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Well Christmas is coming early for me....
 
Vin Vermier said:
I have both a .72 M6 and .85 M6TTL and wear glasses. I have no trouble shooting with a 35 mm mounted on the .85; frame lines are still rendered fine. A 28 mm would just mean that what you see in the VF is basically what you'll capture on film (not exactly but pretty close). Here's a link to what looks like a very clean M6TTL on ebay in case you're interested.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Leica-Leitz-M6-TTL-0-85-Black-Camera-2480365-Clean_W0QQitemZ230177224568QQihZ013QQcategoryZ30030QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Thanks Vin, I have that one bookmarked. Do you prefer the view through the .72 or the .85?
 
I have a .85 M6 and wear eyeglasses. I cannot see all the 35mm framelines at once. Trying to use a 28mm lens with this finder (for me) would be totally hopeless. I suggest you go with the .72 finder camera if you use 50mm lens often, or a .58 finder if you use 28mm lens most often.
 
I only have a M4-P and a M2. I wear glasses, but have them on a cord so they will fall around my neck. (I'm an old geezer so this is OK. )
I purchased a diopter to match my glasses from the big internet auction site. Things couldn't be better. I can get my eye right up to the finder. I see all the frame lines in the M4-P.
I think this should be the way for the M6.
 
FrankS said:
I have a .85 M6 and wear eyeglasses. I cannot see all the 35mm framelines at once. Trying to use a 28mm lens with this finder (for me) would be totally hopeless. I suggest you go with the .72 finder camera if you use 50mm lens often, or a .58 finder if you use 28mm lens most often.
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I'm more of a 28/35 guy...would there be any problems with focusing accurately with a 50 and the .58 finder? Or with 28/35 on the .72?

I've tried reading up on the science/mechanics of finders, EBl etc. It's still kinda mud to me 😱
 
literiter said:
I only have a M4-P and a M2. I wear glasses, but have them on a cord so they will fall around my neck. (I'm an old geezer so this is OK. )
I purchased a diopter to match my glasses from the big internet auction site. Things couldn't be better. I can get my eye right up to the finder. I see all the frame lines in the M4-P.
I think this should be the way for the M6.
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My eyes are so bad I don't think I could get away with that, I'd be running into poles and tripping over curbs 😀
 
I use both 0.72 and 0.85 mag M bodies. If you're using 28+50 (great combination BTW) I would get the 0.72 mag. After you've got over the damage to your wallet, get a Leica 1.25x VF magnifier and that will give you an effective magnification of 0.90. The best of both worlds. 🙂
 
peter_n said:
I use both 0.72 and 0.85 mag M bodies. If you're using 28+50 (great combination BTW) I would get the 0.72 mag. After you've got over the damage to your wallet, get a Leica 1.25x VF magnifier and that will give you an effective magnification of 0.90. The best of both worlds. 🙂
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Is that a currently produced item?
 
csxcnj said:
I'm more of a 28/35 guy...would there be any problems with focusing accurately with a 50 and the .58 finder? Or with 28/35 on the .72?

I've tried reading up on the science/mechanics of finders, EBl etc. It's still kinda mud to me 😱
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The greatest challenge would be for the lowest mag finder to accurrately focus longer, faster lenses, up close wide open. I don't think that the .58 finder camera will have difficulty focusing a 50mm lens generally, though there may be some misses if you take a lot of shots wide open and up close with an f2 or f1.4 lens. (This is based on my experience with the Hexar RF with .6 mag finder and using 50mm lenses on it.) If you are more of a 28 and 35 lens shooter, consider the .58 finder camera.
 
FrankS said:
The greatest challenge would be for the lowest mag finder to accurrately focus longer, faster lenses, up close wide open. I don't think that the .58 finder camera will have difficulty focusing a 50mm lens generally, though there may be some misses if you take a lot of shots wide open and up close with an f2 or f1.4 lens. (This is based on my experience with the Hexar RF with .6 mag finder and using 50mm lenses on it.) If you are more of a 28 and 35 lens shooter, consider the .58 finder camera.
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Ahh, getting closer to "peace at the center" as the Quakers say...thanks Frank for the explanation, it helps.
 
csxcnj said:
It looks like nobody uses the .58 finder ....
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I have a .58 M6TTL. Although I wear glasses, the main reason I got the .58 finder is that I knew that I'd keep a 35mm lens on the camera 80%+ of the time, and the solo 35mm framelines was appealing.

I can't give any authoritative statements about focusing accuracy with the .58 finder with longer lenses. For years, I only had a 35mm lens for my M6. A few weeks ago I got a 75/2.0 which (so far) I've had no issues focusing -- but I also haven't used it a whole lot yet.
 
csxcnj said:
Thanks Vin, I have that one bookmarked. Do you prefer the view through the .72 or the .85?
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I'd have to say I prefer the 0.85 over the .72 even when using a 35 mm lens (which I now use almost exclusively). Maybe its because I like to have a fuller view in the VF than I get with the .72, don't really know for sure. The .72 may offer a bit faster composition if you are going to mainly do street shooting and don't want to linger too long with the camera at face level. Where I live most people are accustomed to seeing tourists taking photos so I haven't experienced any hassles even when near the U.S. embassy which figures prominently in the downtown core near parliament.
 
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