Considering my first Leica M body (film)

[chuckroast]

View attachment 4873446Bought levers from DAG, fitted myself in 2 minutes. Easy.
M4-p and M6 0.85
Much prefer M4-p, don't like meters in film cameras, slows me down...
YMMV

Do the top covers to the wind lever just unthread for the replacement or do you need a special tool?

 

[38Deardorff]

Do the top covers to the wind lever just unthread for the replacement or do you need a special tool?

ChuckR... i've never done it, but this is interesting info.... the M2/3 lever is a different length than the one for the MP...

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Thread 'Replacing film advance lever'

Nov 23, 2006

I'm thinking of changing my m6 stock lever with an m3 style one..I don't really want to send my camera to DAG just to do this... Has anyone done this themselves, and is it difficult? I found some info at nemeng.com, but couldn't find the microtool required for this task. Anyone out there have this tool they want to rent me or sell or point me in the right direction? thanks.

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• Replies: 39
• Forum: Leica M Film Cameras

 

[agentlossing]

I just spent 2 weeks shooting with my M2 on the Ionian coast of Greece with a 21 Skopar, 35 Cron, and a 50 Cron and it was flawless.

Well, color me jealous.

Which is green, I guess.

 

[chuckroast]

Well, color me jealous.

Which is green, I guess.

I only shoot monochrome film, so I cannot provide you with any color ...

 

[deadrangefinder76]

Awesome

 

[deadrangefinder76]

Most Leica M newbies buying their first M don't realize that first M will likely be the first of many.
Over time you will have different M preferences.
So don't take the first one so seriously.

You might keep it, but most M's have a way of moving on.
Leica M ownership is a moving door with a moving bottomless camera bag.

Have fun and Njoy the journey.

Try to start owning an old meterless M 😎😎😎

 

[deadrangefinder76]

I was referring to mechanical components all other M cameras share in common. If the M7's electronic components (mechanical in other M cameras) break/die, they cannot be serviced or replaced.

True!

 

[deadrangefinder76]

Having owned an early M6 and an M4-P, M4-P.

If you want to go old school, Rewind Button M2.

B2 (;->

Been with 4 meterless M’s, the first bought was my first love many years ago, well who wouldn’t like for $400 in a reputable camera shop and it is in excellent cond’n! Sold it and regret it forever.

 

[deadrangefinder76]

Articulated film advance.....what you call "PITA plastic on shutter lever"
I'm having more than a little difficulty understanding what you've written.
"Did you teardown an M? I do" ..... excellent.
By the way who is "Moogie"
This is usually a forum for discussion not arguments.
We all have differing opinions based on our individual experience with cameras.
I'll leave this discussion on that note.

Im sorry if you feel that way, I am not arguing, just stating the facts.

We can not please everybody when it comes to an opinion.

Disagreeing without attacking persons is not an argument.

I do not comform or buy into it easily especially if it is just a hearsays. I look into facts.

Dont take it personally.

You called Leica M2 as “redheaded stepchild”” WHY?

I wanna reiterate that all leica M’s series in terms of principles, design and functionality serves the same purpose. They’d just sone few perks but not much on later design (e.g. Speedloading, lightmeter, speed rewind etc. other than that thats it.

Yeah I did disassemble my own M, and franken-design it. It is not easy, So I take my time because, I love doing it intuitively.

Besides having a meter-less M series make yourself more attentive reading the light.

The guy who I am talking to is one of the old-timer here. His name is “Moggie77”

Have a nice day!


Cheers!

 

[kxl]

Most Leica M newbies buying their first M don't realize that first M will likely be the first of many.
Over time you will have different M preferences.
So don't take the first one so seriously.

You might keep it, but most M's have a way of moving on.
Leica M ownership is a moving door with a moving bottomless camera bag.

Have fun and Njoy the journey.

You are absolutely right. I know for a fact this MP will not be my last Leica (film or digital).

 

[Godfrey]

... When the M6 arrived (80's?) I rushed out an bought one. Like my M4-2 the VF flared badly ...

VF patch flare .. from the second run of the M4-2 and all later bodies up until the early 2000s, Leica was getting comments that people wanted thicker, brighter frame lines and they made a change to achieve that. It also caused a lot of viewfinder flare.

Early M4-2 VF optics are identical to the M4: no flare. They finally created an optical fix for the flare issue in the late model cameras, and the fix can be applied back through the line.

We all have our likes and dislikes. My M4-2 needs a shutter overhaul but is otherwise perfect. My M6TTL 0.85x is perfect. It took me 50-some years to move through the M bodies I've had, and I'm happy with these two film bodies, and the M10-M/-R that I use alongside them. I'm also happy with my Leica IIIc as well, a nice replacement for the IIIf, IIc, and IIf I had all those years ago. Never had an M7, never owned an M5 or an M2, or an MP.

Hmm ... M3, M4, M-P (2x), M6TTL 0.72x, M4-2, M6TTL 0.85x ... seven M film bodies over 55 years. Three CLs too. An M9, an M-P240, an M-D262, and then the current M10-M, M10-R, and my second X2. An SL601. Prior to all of those, a IIIf, a IIf and a IIc. I've certainly given Leica a good bit of my spare change, eh? LOL!

I'm pretty happy with what I have now, just need to use it more. 😀

G

 

[38Deardorff]

Im sorry if you feel that way, I am not arguing, just stating the facts.

We can not please everybody when it comes to an opinion.

Disagreeing without attacking persons is not an argument.

I do not comform or buy into it easily especially if it is just a hearsays. I look into facts.

Dont take it personally.

You called Leica M2 as “redheaded stepchild”” WHY?

I wanna reiterate that all leica M’s series in terms of principles, design and functionality serves the same purpose. They’d just sone few perks but not much on later design (e.g. Speedloading, lightmeter, speed rewind etc. other than that thats it.

Yeah I did disassemble my own M, and franken-design it. It is not easy, So I take my time because, I love doing it intuitively.

Besides having a meter-less M series make yourself more attentive reading the light.

The guy who I am talking to is one of the old-timer here. His name is “Moggie77”

Have a nice day!


Cheers!

I did not call the M2 anything.... this is what i said: "

I have a great appreciation for the M2...it was the first Leica i bought, but the M4 is not the red-haired stepchild by any stretch of the imagination. Mine is still going strong since 1968.

You're the one who stated strong objection to the two piece wind lever. "with a PITA plastic on shutter lever that keep on losing while on the fly,"
You're the one who newly shows up here and states strong personal opinions as if they are facts...
As well you might consider that repainting an original black paint Leica does nothing but decrease the value.
Have a nice day

 

[deadrangefinder76]

I did not call the M2 anything.... this is what i said: "

You're the one who stated strong objection to the two piece wind lever. "with a PITA plastic on shutter lever that keep on losing while on the fly,"
You're the one who newly shows up here and states strong personal opinions as if they are facts...
As well you might consider that repainting an original black paint Leica does nothing but decrease the value.
Have a nice day

38Deardorff said:
I have a great appreciation for the M2...it was the first Leica i bought, but the M4 is not the red-haired stepchild by any stretch of the imagination. Mine is still going strong since 1968. -----LOL you said it in a cleverly way, its not just direct, but it has a double meaning on it, like implying M2 is…. 😂😂😂 it is not just obvious though.

Btw, you labeled me as Master of Understatement, is that a good or a bad.

Yes I am newly registered so are you 4 months go. It is not that long 😂😂😂 So take it easy.

Which part I have become that I have strong objection to you ? honestly if you disagree with me IDGAF. You could try… but still I dont mind.

Well, like I said I do not like that plastic tipped M4 film advance lever in my experience, So do not be annoyed, I know you love your M4, but it has nothing to do with your M4.I like the M2 FAL. Even the new MA they have the OG FAL.

I did not intend to butthurt you about your brassing M4, just saying need really repaint because it is obviously old.

Disagreeing with you does not mean, I am arguing with you. We both shares our own personal beliefs( opinion)

ANYWAY as I have said do not take it personally.

Have a nice day!

Peace out!

 

[rfaspen]

38deardorf....I am so glad you know not to repaint your original black paint M4!!
BTW, it's beautiful. Wish I had one too but I'm probably done spending that kind of money on film (or even digital) cameras. My wife would probably kill me too 😮