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anyone know how well the Bessa lugs are attatched? are they just mushroomed in as well?
Wrist straps on the M... A good idea?
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Maxapple88 said:
that silk cord is pretty but pricey...
Pablito
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BennyBoy said:
If you mean the original Leica nylon strap, it's actually an excellent and strong strap with a good non-slip shoulder pad - and not cheap. I prefer it over leather.
amateriat
We're all light!
I've used a Leicagoodies SLING on one of my Hexar RF bodies for about four years, without incident. On the left lug, I've laced the original shoulder strap "Tuco style" (semi-endorsed by the original Tuco, I might add), for easy on-shoulder/off-shoulder access. Strap lugs are tight as a drum to this day.infrequent said:
The only wear I've commonly seen regarding strap lugs is through the eyelets, not yanking-out of the lugs altogether, mostly on Nikon F-series bodies. I've seen Leicas with seriously-worn eyelets, but can't recall one with a missing lug, even in the hallowed offices of Magnum. But I don't get around as much as all this sounds. 😉
HRF #1, SLING'd/Tuco'd
Eli, holding HRF #2
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joebt
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I use a wrist strap with my Zeiss Ikon, but the Zi does not dangle by the strap. I keep it craddled in my hand, with a small 35mm Cron version 4 mounted most of the time. I do this because it makes the ZI a great carry all the time rangefinder that easily slips into the pocket of my M-65 Combat Jacket.
I did use a neck strap connected to one lug on my M6TTL for about 2 years. The M6 not only was suspended by the one lug, but it used to swing as I walked too. I never had a problem with it either. I thought these things were supposed to be some of the toughest cameras on the market?
I did use a neck strap connected to one lug on my M6TTL for about 2 years. The M6 not only was suspended by the one lug, but it used to swing as I walked too. I never had a problem with it either. I thought these things were supposed to be some of the toughest cameras on the market?
0bli0
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amateriat said:
known as the rat... 🙂
nice shot, too.
Rob-F
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I think it's a bad idea, for reasons already stated. I would never do it.
amateriat
We're all light!
It all depends. Camera strap lugs suffer all kinds of stress, depending on who's using the camera, and where. I've teken jumps and leaps with more than one camera around my neck or shoulder that I was certain would either (a) leave a nasty welt on my neck or shoulder (happened), or (b) snap a camera strap or two (didn't happen). Never busted a lug. This includes Canons, Nikons, Pentaxes, Minoltas, at least one Leica and a Rolleiflex 2000F. I really doubt doing a "one-lug hold" (boy, does that sound like a punchline to a particularly dirty joke) is going to noticeably compromise mechanical integrity. But, in the end, you do what you feel is sensible, and take it from there. That's all that counts.Rob-F said:
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johannielscom
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why not the tripod screw?
why not the tripod screw?
I use an old 8mm movie camera wrist strap for my M3 with M-Hexanon 50mm 1.2. This screws into the tripod screw. Mine is a nylon Eumig wrist strap, clamped in solid steel, free rotating at the camera side. Tripod screw side is nicely covered with a thin nylon cover, so no markings on the bottom plate.
Combined with a Thumbs Up grip, this is easy to carry and to handle.
I feel it's again time for a post in the Show your M-Leica forum, I'll link from this thread to that post as well.
why not the tripod screw?
I use an old 8mm movie camera wrist strap for my M3 with M-Hexanon 50mm 1.2. This screws into the tripod screw. Mine is a nylon Eumig wrist strap, clamped in solid steel, free rotating at the camera side. Tripod screw side is nicely covered with a thin nylon cover, so no markings on the bottom plate.
Combined with a Thumbs Up grip, this is easy to carry and to handle.
I feel it's again time for a post in the Show your M-Leica forum, I'll link from this thread to that post as well.
Zenjitsuman
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I use the leicagoodies two finger loops on one lug eyelit, and leicagoodies mountain climbers link between the lug ring and a neck strap hanging the camera around my neck. The camera is in a Zhou half case with the finger grabs in the leather surface. I also have Tom A. soft shutter button.
When I am holding the camera the grip on the half case and the finger loops steady my right hand and position my index finger just right to take advantage of Tom A's shutter soft shutter button.
Its funny that such expensive cameras have such a cheap and weak eyelit. All cameras rely on the neck and shoulder straps for carrying safety. My Nikons I have carried with big heavy tele zooms and never heard of one separating from its eyelit. I guess I need to get a failsafe strap that goes thru the asa dial cutout and attaches to the leicagoodies mountain slide which can hold a persons weight.
When I am holding the camera the grip on the half case and the finger loops steady my right hand and position my index finger just right to take advantage of Tom A's shutter soft shutter button.
Its funny that such expensive cameras have such a cheap and weak eyelit. All cameras rely on the neck and shoulder straps for carrying safety. My Nikons I have carried with big heavy tele zooms and never heard of one separating from its eyelit. I guess I need to get a failsafe strap that goes thru the asa dial cutout and attaches to the leicagoodies mountain slide which can hold a persons weight.
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I have had cameras drop from pulled out strap-lugs. The earlier Leica ones were brass and could "deform" quite easy if you pulled hard. Some neckstraps also have a tendency to "twist" the lugs and loosen them that way. I dont think I would trust a wriststrap attached to a straplug! With a heavier lens you do excert a lot of force on them. It is also important that replacement lugs be the proper diameter. The original ones are only 3 mm diameter in the fitting and NEVER replace them with the same as that will lead to them pulling out again. The Leica replacement lugs are 4 mm and they "ream out" the hole to give it a stronger grip. You need a special tool to "crimp" the ends too. Occasionally I use wriststraps with screw-mount leicas or Bessa's, but always the type that attaches to the tripod socket.
Not that many years ago i was testing a just serviced black paint M3 and was peacefully walking along on the sidewalk when an idiot on a bicycle tried to force me into a hedge and his handlebar cought my neckstrap and pulled out the straplug and dumped the camera on the sidewalk (with nothing less than a black paint early Summilux 50 on it). Both camera and lens had to go back for service. The guy got aggressive and started yelling and threatening me as he was pulled off the bike by the force of the impact. I punched him in the nose as hard as I could, picked up the camera/lens and continued home. I assume he needed some service too!
Not that many years ago i was testing a just serviced black paint M3 and was peacefully walking along on the sidewalk when an idiot on a bicycle tried to force me into a hedge and his handlebar cought my neckstrap and pulled out the straplug and dumped the camera on the sidewalk (with nothing less than a black paint early Summilux 50 on it). Both camera and lens had to go back for service. The guy got aggressive and started yelling and threatening me as he was pulled off the bike by the force of the impact. I punched him in the nose as hard as I could, picked up the camera/lens and continued home. I assume he needed some service too!
Zenjitsuman
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I use the leicagoodies two finger loops on one lug eyelit, and leicagoodies mountain climbers link between the lug ring and a neck strap hanging the camera around my neck. The camera is in a Zhou half case with the finger grabs in the leather surface. I also have Tom A. soft shutter button.
When I am holding the camera the grip on the half case and the finger loops steady my right hand and position my index finger just right to take advantage of Tom A's shutter soft shutter button.
Its funny that such expensive cameras have such a cheap and weak eyelit. All cameras rely on the neck and shoulder straps for carrying safety. My Nikons I have carried with big heavy tele zooms and never heard of one separating from its eyelit. I guess I need to get a failsafe strap that goes thru the asa dial cutout and attaches to the leicagoodies mountain slide which can hold a persons weight.
When I am holding the camera the grip on the half case and the finger loops steady my right hand and position my index finger just right to take advantage of Tom A's shutter soft shutter button.
Its funny that such expensive cameras have such a cheap and weak eyelit. All cameras rely on the neck and shoulder straps for carrying safety. My Nikons I have carried with big heavy tele zooms and never heard of one separating from its eyelit. I guess I need to get a failsafe strap that goes thru the asa dial cutout and attaches to the leicagoodies mountain slide which can hold a persons weight.
hlockwood
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Not so fast!
Not so fast!
No stress at all? Well, the tripod mount is designed to handle a compressive force, whereas dangling the camera from the tripod mount will exert a tensile force. So, which (lug or tripod mount) is more likely to create a problem in an M camera?
Obviously, dangling the camera in either case should be avoided.
Harry
Not so fast!
No stress at all? Well, the tripod mount is designed to handle a compressive force, whereas dangling the camera from the tripod mount will exert a tensile force. So, which (lug or tripod mount) is more likely to create a problem in an M camera?
Obviously, dangling the camera in either case should be avoided.
Harry