Zenjitsuman
Established
One lesson that a digital rf manufacture could take a lesson from the Nikon D3 is the 5:4 ratio frame size setting as a native sensor size.
Since prints to 8x10 and 16x20 have alway been popular the aspect ratio 5:4 is a good idea that allows direct composition on screen and no PP cropping to size final print. No wasted pixels cropped away.
Also, the 5:4 ratio equates to a 1.2 crop of a 35mm full frame. This makes the problem of vignetting less because 3mm is cropped from each side of a 35mm frame leaving a 30x24mm sensor size.
The affect on lenses is much better in regards to wide angles.
A 18mm lens ends up in 5:4 format being a 22mm lens
a 24mm lens is now 29mm lens and a 50mm lens is 60mm FL.
A 75mm lens is now 90mm lens.
I think this works out well. If someone will add in camera image stabilization and low noise ISO 1600 its a winning combination.
No shake to for sure 1/2 sec because to start with there is no moving mirror slap and image stabilization.
Since prints to 8x10 and 16x20 have alway been popular the aspect ratio 5:4 is a good idea that allows direct composition on screen and no PP cropping to size final print. No wasted pixels cropped away.
Also, the 5:4 ratio equates to a 1.2 crop of a 35mm full frame. This makes the problem of vignetting less because 3mm is cropped from each side of a 35mm frame leaving a 30x24mm sensor size.
The affect on lenses is much better in regards to wide angles.
A 18mm lens ends up in 5:4 format being a 22mm lens
a 24mm lens is now 29mm lens and a 50mm lens is 60mm FL.
A 75mm lens is now 90mm lens.
I think this works out well. If someone will add in camera image stabilization and low noise ISO 1600 its a winning combination.
No shake to for sure 1/2 sec because to start with there is no moving mirror slap and image stabilization.
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
I tend to look at my ZM and wonder what modifications are needed to go digital...or are the mods already there?
For example, why mount an on/off switch around the shutter button when using the film advance lever (Nikon FM style) is easier and already familiar to CV (they built the FM10, no?). Might the on/off switch is meant for the digital version without film advance lever?
Another example, how tough is it to replace the film rewind round shroud with a battery hatch...or use the film take-up spool space to house a couple of SD, mini SD or micro SD cards?...with room left over for the shutter motor.
And, to add an "Auto" setting in the ISO dial is really just a circuitry modification.
I believe the chip/circuitry/firmware/LCD can be built as a rectangular unit not much thicker than the space now used the film pressure plate...the LCD protruding out the back is even logical. Or, plug in an iPod to review the images after (reading the camera SD card instead of its own), keep your eye on the beautiful viewfinder while you shoot.
Hell, I wouldn't even bother with auto exposure and simply bracket. The reusable film was already paid for, yes?
Someone must have built the FX full-frame sensor for Nikon...possibly Sony?
For example, why mount an on/off switch around the shutter button when using the film advance lever (Nikon FM style) is easier and already familiar to CV (they built the FM10, no?). Might the on/off switch is meant for the digital version without film advance lever?
Another example, how tough is it to replace the film rewind round shroud with a battery hatch...or use the film take-up spool space to house a couple of SD, mini SD or micro SD cards?...with room left over for the shutter motor.
And, to add an "Auto" setting in the ISO dial is really just a circuitry modification.
I believe the chip/circuitry/firmware/LCD can be built as a rectangular unit not much thicker than the space now used the film pressure plate...the LCD protruding out the back is even logical. Or, plug in an iPod to review the images after (reading the camera SD card instead of its own), keep your eye on the beautiful viewfinder while you shoot.
Hell, I wouldn't even bother with auto exposure and simply bracket. The reusable film was already paid for, yes?
Someone must have built the FX full-frame sensor for Nikon...possibly Sony?
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varjag
Guest
Optimistic explanation: yes they have digital ZI in the works and let it slip out as sales pitch on their website even before Photokina.
Realistic explanation: they want to sell lenses to M8 users but too shy to mention the L-word on the pages dedicated to their own camera system.
Realistic explanation: they want to sell lenses to M8 users but too shy to mention the L-word on the pages dedicated to their own camera system.
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varjag
Guest
They might bring out digital ZI at some point sure, I just doubt that this has anything to do with it.
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
"How much would you shell out for a FX RF body?"
Think of the chip in a digital camera as reusable film without processing cost. How much might you or will you spent on this recurring cost?
I would be happy to pay a fixed premium upfront for an "equivalent to film quality" digital camera of any type. But, that begs the unending debate as to whether film is better than digital...
BTW, I would be glad swapping a dark room for a laptop any time...at least I can travel with it, and share images the new electronic way...or this forum would never have worked.
And, use that new 1080p LCD TV you will all soon buy as the home gallery.
Avotius
Some guy
a valid question, maybe he was refering to the partnership of epson and cosina before, though I highly doubt that any kind of arrangement would have to be made on that front.
With the recent development and researgance of rangefinder photography I am optamistic in the future development of digital rangefinder products, its just the suspense is killing me! Can't wait till September comes.
