C41 in Rodinal did I miss something?

[Tmas]

Encouraged by some recent posts I tried to develope a colour film (Agfa xps 160) in Rodinal 1:100. One hour stand, fix as usual for BW films.
The film came out with very faint images but the base was "thick" brown, hardly transparent. I scanned one frame, but the result after heavy adjustments in PS is far from anything I saw in those posts...
Did I miss something?
Regards, Tmas

 

[grainy_shadows]

alright, so this possible, so what would be the advantages of this process?

 

[ruby.monkey]

Wrong brand of film? Kodak BW400 CN is the same, whereas Ilford XP2 is fine - it ends up with a purple tint, but is clear enough to scan easily.

 

[Joao]

Hi
I’ve tried several films with home-brewed paRodinal and was surprised with the results.
Here they are

With Ilford XP2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joaofreitas/sets/72157606624905040/

With an outdated Slide film
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joaofreitas/sets/72157616007098413/

And with Kodak Gold 200
http://public.fotki.com/BlueWind/parodinal-for-kodak/

The only advantage of these methods is to use old/outdated films in an inexpensive way instead of just discarding them. And I add the fun & surprise of the results I get - for me it counts also. Of course I would not use them for an important subject as there is always the possibility of getting bizarre outcomes…
Regards
Joao

 

[P. Lynn Miller]

Tmas,

Not sure what you think you are missing... all C-41 color film is made with a brown-orange base as part of the film, no method of development that I know will remove the color from the base except very harsh bleaching which as far as I know will give you a clear piece of acetate with no image whatsoever.

I have processed a lot of C-41 film, because I have hundreds of rolls that I got for next to nothing, which makes it cheaper to shoot than B&W film and I can't be bothered paying money for normal C-41 processing. So I toss the rolls in Rodinal 1:100 for an hour or so and then scan, convert, etc. and etc. and digital print. Cheap and fun, that is all.

More details here - Kodak Gold in Rodinal 1:100 and Raw Scan of Kodak Gold Negative

Hope that helps...

 

[DGA]

Tmas,

Not sure what you think you are missing... all C-41 color film is made with a brown-orange base as part of the film, no method of development that I know will remove the color from the base except very harsh bleaching which as far as I know will give you a clear piece of acetate with no image whatsoever.

I have processed a lot of C-41 film, because I have hundreds of rolls that I got for next to nothing, which makes it cheaper to shoot than B&W film and I can't be bothered paying money for normal C-41 processing. So I toss the rolls in Rodinal 1:100 for an hour or so and then scan, convert, etc. and etc. and digital print. Cheap and fun, that is all.

More details here - Kodak Gold in Rodinal 1:100 and Raw Scan of Kodak Gold Negative

Hope that helps...

Nice results.
Indeed, this process can save up some bucks.
I'm getting interested 🙂
Could you give more details about the process (like temperature and other technical stuff)?
Thanks.

 

[P. Lynn Miller]

More information than you want to know...

How I Use Rodinal 1:100 Stand

And more about Rodinal 1:100 than you ever to know...

Rodinal 1:100 Thread

 

[DGA]

More information than you want to know...

How I Use Rodinal 1:100 Stand

And more about Rodinal 1:100 than you ever to know...

Rodinal 1:100 Thread

Very interesting.
Thanks P.

 

[Tmas]

Sorry for my own late reaction! Was too busy the last days...
Yes, I have a box full of expired 160 Iso/ 12 Exp. films and would like to use them as test and fun films. Without having to pay for dev. and pics!
I will try once more and follow the advice to rinse for a longer time to get rid of the dense colour.
Evtl develope a bit stronger, too.

Thank you for your input!
Best,
Tmas

 

[Fotohuis]

Well you could also start DIY C41 development. It's not very difficult only the C41 chemicals are a bit more expensive then regular B&W chemicals.
C41 dev. 3:15 min
Stop 0:30 min
Blix 6:30 min.
Wash 5:00 min
Stabilizer 1:00 min

The only critical thing is the temperature of 37,8 degrees C. but that's only for the C41 developer. For the rest you can be 2-3 degrees C of that temperature.

Best regards,

Robert

 

[raid]

Would it also work with slide film [E6 process]?
Why yes or why no?

 

[P. Lynn Miller]

Raid,

I am not developed any E-6 film in B&W chemicals myself, but I am pretty sure you would get an image of some sort. Do a quick Flickr search.

John,

One of the reason's I started developing C-41 in Rodinal is because I 'inherited' about 300 rolls of expired C-41 film. I had a few rolls developed in in C-41 chemicals, but the film was already starting to show its age, so I threw a few rolls in Rodinal. The result is a very cheap and fun way to shoot that delivers very nice digital B&W prints.