Austerby
Well-known
Is our little world about to be changed forever? What happened to that nice little company that produced flawed masterpieces which only us as cognescenti truly appreciated - what happens when that company produces items of such quality and attractiveness that hoi polloi in their thousands buy and use them!?!
Time to get interested in Alpa, or Horseman, or Linhof I think....
Time to get interested in Alpa, or Horseman, or Linhof I think....
emraphoto
Veteran
isn't alpa done?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Maybe it's back to the FSU's! 
"It's Leica Jim but not as we know it, not as we know, not as we know it!"
'Star Trecking'
"It's Leica Jim but not as we know it, not as we know, not as we know it!"
'Star Trecking'
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Sparrow
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Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Is this the end of Leica as we know it?
It's the dawn of a new age of Leica. A magnificent achievement. I wish them every success. I'm sure we all do.
It's the dawn of a new age of Leica. A magnificent achievement. I wish them every success. I'm sure we all do.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
There is this strange idea going around, as the idea behind this thread illustrates, that the M9 sends Leica into the mainstream. I suspect little will change at Leica or in the industry as a result of the M9. DRF's aren't ever going to be mainstream.
Tuolumne
Veteran
They had to kill the company in order to save the company.
/T
/T
Phantomas
Well-known
isn't alpa done?
Nope, alive and kicking and producing some mouth-watering stuff. Saw them at Photokina last year. new management injected new life into the company.
http://www.alpa.ch/index.php
Beemermark
Veteran
Is our little world about to be changed forever? What happened to that nice little company that produced flawed masterpieces which only us as cognescenti truly appreciated - what happens when that company produces items of such quality and attractiveness that hoi polloi in their thousands buy and use them!?!
Do you really think the hoi polloi are going to run out and spend $10K for a fixed lens digital camera???
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
There is this strange idea going around, as the idea behind this thread illustrates, that the M9 sends Leica into the mainstream.
Mainstream dont have $7500 (US) for M9 or 21/24 Summilux or $10,000 (US) for a Noct. Leica will never be mainstream anymore than Rolex.
skibeerr
Well-known
Austerby, you can drive a car and watch tv or browse the internet because plebeyers like me put in our few cents towards r&d and profit for the industry.
You can distinguish yourself from the crowds with the wonderfull and breathtaking images you produce.
Kind regards,
Wim
You can distinguish yourself from the crowds with the wonderfull and breathtaking images you produce.
Kind regards,
Wim
f16sunshine
Moderator
I'm reminded of the last election.
Obama wins and everyone expects the world to change like flipping a light switch.
Well the world did change and.........it stayed the same.
The new Leica ? How do we know yet?
When the number of units shipped is over 10k and the number of units returned for flaws is under 300 (3% can they beat it?). Maybe then we can say this is the new Leica.
I'm optimistic as anyone I hope. But the proof is always..............
Obama wins and everyone expects the world to change like flipping a light switch.
Well the world did change and.........it stayed the same.
The new Leica ? How do we know yet?
When the number of units shipped is over 10k and the number of units returned for flaws is under 300 (3% can they beat it?). Maybe then we can say this is the new Leica.
I'm optimistic as anyone I hope. But the proof is always..............
Mainstream dont have $7500 (US) for M9 or 21/24 Summilux or $10,000 (US) for a Noct. Leica will never be mainstream anymore than Rolex.
I agree. Leica is not now mainstream, their product line though is significantly advanced from where it was on Monday. Their target customer has not changed, but they again have products that can woo the hearts and minds of the rest of us that are more directed to what our ideals are. Now Leica has "Leica class" products to go along with their reputation.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Time to get interested in Alpa, or Horseman, or Linhof I think....
Where are the flaws, though? I've never used many Horseman cameras, but I've been impressed with the ones I have used (6x12, Woodman) and with my Horseman 6x12 back; and Frances and I own and use both Alpa (12WA and 12 S/WA) and Linhof (Technika and Technikardan).
Cheers,
R.
emraphoto
Veteran
Nope, alive and kicking and producing some mouth-watering stuff. Saw them at Photokina last year. new management injected new life into the company.
http://www.alpa.ch/index.php
oh now you've done it! must find one, no! must resist!
find one.
Austerby
Well-known
There is this strange idea going around, as the idea behind this thread illustrates, that the M9 sends Leica into the mainstream. I suspect little will change at Leica or in the industry as a result of the M9. DRF's aren't ever going to be mainstream.
Well, I did say thousands rather than hundreds of thousands or millions, but just read what others are saying:
- professional photographers using Leicas
- DSLR users using Leicas
- middle-class people using Leicas
The sky is falling on our heads, I'm telling you.
gnarayan
Gautham Narayan
Is our little world about to be changed forever? What happened to that nice little company that produced flawed masterpieces which only us as cognescenti truly appreciated - what happens when that company produces items of such quality and attractiveness that hoi polloi in their thousands buy and use them!?!
Clearly we need two things. The first is background checks and a literacy test for photography for those wanting to buy Leicas. That will weed out those nasty smelly masses. Perhaps a test of Greek and Latin too.
The second is higher prices. That will make Leicas much less attractive to the public.
It might be necessary to require that cognoscenti undertake a pilgrimage to the Fatherland to receive their Leica. Those who are unworthy can be shot at the border (with their oversized Nipponese SLRs). Thus shall we protect the world of Wetzlar from the stampeding feet of the hoi polloi.
You must excuse me for now. My tongue needs extracting. It appears to be jammed in my cheek.
Austerby
Well-known
Where are the flaws, though? I've never used many Horseman cameras, but I've been impressed with the ones I have used (6x12, Woodman) and with my Horseman 6x12 back; and Frances and I own and use both Alpa (12WA and 12 S/WA) and Linhof (Technika and Technikardan).
Cheers,
R.
Dear Roger
I defer to your knowledge - I'll have to look elsewhere. But even Bristol cars are showing signs of losing their eccentricities...
Florian1234
it's just hide and seek
I, for my part, would like to get my hands on one of these new M9 cameras, if they would not be that pricey (pricey in a way of the relation towards my salary at the moment as an university student with part-time job)

noimmunity
scratch my niche
Clearly we need two things. The first is background checks and a literacy test for photography for those wanting to buy Leicas. That will weed out those nasty smelly masses. Perhaps a test of Greek and Latin too.
The second is higher prices. That will make Leicas much less attractive to the public.
It might be necessary to require that cognoscenti undertake a pilgrimage to the Fatherland to receive their Leica. Those who are unworthy can be shot at the border (with their oversized Nipponese SLRs). Thus shall we protect the world of Wetzlar from the stampeding feet of the hoi polloi.
You must excuse me for now. My tongue needs extracting. It appears to be jammed in my cheek.
Hilarious!
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