davidtth
Established
correct me if i'm wrong... i came across many leica M film bodies from M2,3,4,6,7,MP but it seems none of them have the multiple exposure feature?
out of curious...just wonder any particular reason why not ?
out of curious...just wonder any particular reason why not ?
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
I wonder myself but at why other cameras do have this useless feature. The only legitimate reason to use such a feature where the effects cannot be duplicated during printing, traditional or digital would be for some sort of time lapse photography.
swoop
Well-known
I'm assuming because the camera's intended purpose was portability and that evolved into a preferred user base of journalists. And they had no need for the trick. Just one more thing to go wrong.
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film is exciting
I'm assuming because the camera's intended purpose was portability and that evolved into a preferred user base of journalists. And they had no need for the trick. Just one more thing to go wrong.
seconded,rugged mechanics over a not super useful function.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Yes, basically a feature against nature of photography...
Thinking of the most relevant images in history, none of them captured more than one amazing single exposure...
Cheers,
Juan
Thinking of the most relevant images in history, none of them captured more than one amazing single exposure...
Cheers,
Juan
orenrcohen
Established
It is possible to do multiple exposures on a Leica M.. In fact I have been working on a project of double exposures all done on my M6 some of which can be seen on my Flickr stream http://www.flickr.com/photos/orenrcohen/
Try rewinding at the end of a roll (but not all the way, so that you leave enough outside the casing to rethread) and shoot it twice..
Oren..
Try rewinding at the end of a roll (but not all the way, so that you leave enough outside the casing to rethread) and shoot it twice..
Oren..
f16sunshine
Moderator
Well honestly multi exposure is not something I use often but, it is useful. Years ago (many) I read a Les McLean book where I learned to split up a long exposure into many shorter ones exposed on the same frame. If you are taking a landscape for example of a rising tide or running stream. The results can be quite dramatic and beautiful. Google some of his work to find examples. Breaking a 1 sec exposure into 10x 1/100th over a 1/2 hr on a rising tide can give a very haunting and beautiful effect. Same case in a night city scape. Try before you deny tripod must apply 
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
Never used it on my Nikon F6. Definitely dont want/need on my Leica. Regards - P.
Pablito
coco frío
Because Leica decided double exposure prevention is more important than double exposure capability. Personally, I agree & am thankful the camera does not have this "feature."
photony texas
Light Sensitive
hummm, multiple exposure...Quoting from above:
useless feature
no need for the trick
not super useful function
against nature of photography
I wish I would have known this earlier, no one ever told me I guess.
Learn something new everyday.
useless feature
no need for the trick
not super useful function
against nature of photography
I wish I would have known this earlier, no one ever told me I guess.
Learn something new everyday.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Multiple exposure has its own place in photography... An irrelevant one. It doesn't mean it can't be done. It's a field that's opposite to the brilliant capture of one instant reflecting human emotions. A movie is not a photograph, but more than one...
I did it several times, with Nikon and Hasselblad, changing lenses and also with the same lens for the moon in different places, and the last time I did it was when I was a first year student of photography... It doesn't make me happy anymore in any way, because my photography doesn't want two moments inside an image, but it can be done... Great multiple exposure images? I have never seen them after lots of them, and I have never been moved by any of them, no matter the photographer. Multiple exposure is a technical curiosity more than anything else... Maybe as I already went through it seriously it means nothing to me now.
Cheers,
Juan
I did it several times, with Nikon and Hasselblad, changing lenses and also with the same lens for the moon in different places, and the last time I did it was when I was a first year student of photography... It doesn't make me happy anymore in any way, because my photography doesn't want two moments inside an image, but it can be done... Great multiple exposure images? I have never seen them after lots of them, and I have never been moved by any of them, no matter the photographer. Multiple exposure is a technical curiosity more than anything else... Maybe as I already went through it seriously it means nothing to me now.
Cheers,
Juan
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Wow. Anything else I should know about that is verboten? I mean come on.
1. Multiple exposures are easily made with M-bodies using at least two different methods, one of which has been referenced above.
2. Jay Maisel made incredible images of Stonehenge at night with an immense full moon in the background. One of the few times that he "manipulated" an image, shooting the moon with a rather long lens and then shooting Stonehenge with something rather less long - on the same frame. Yes, he used a Nikon SLR, but that's beside the point.
God forbid we should ever underexpose, overexpose, shoot "too" wide, shoot "too" long, shoot multiple exposures on one frame, "Hamilton-ize" lenses, physically manipulate emulsions, embrace noise, grain, or do anything else with a medium that isn't approved... But, I understand... It is hard to come up with valid lens test data when shooting double exposures.
Amazing.
Hi there,
It's you and your spirit who are talking about lots of different things I never even mentioned... Just do it and enjoy it now you do... You're amazingly free, more than others, OK... With a multiple exposure you don't make a photograph, but several photographs... It's that simple... One exposure is another thing. Another field... All this shouldn't affect you...
Cheers,
Juan
sig
Well-known
Juan, could you please define 1 moment?
Is it ok for me to use a shutter speed of e.g. 1 second?
thanks
Is it ok for me to use a shutter speed of e.g. 1 second?
thanks
davidtth
Established
well, reason why i came thru this function is because
1. sometime i accidentally fire the shutter with lens cap on, at least with multi exposure button i can save my film *my silly mistake, i know
2. i do landscape with my M2, i do multi expose in certain situation like i'm using my xpan in exposure controlling
1. sometime i accidentally fire the shutter with lens cap on, at least with multi exposure button i can save my film *my silly mistake, i know
2. i do landscape with my M2, i do multi expose in certain situation like i'm using my xpan in exposure controlling
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Hi sig,
One exposure. Not separate moments.
Check this beauty:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40894234@N07/3766088391/
That's one moment. Not separated moments.
I care less about definitions than about shooting.
Cheers,
Juan
One exposure. Not separate moments.
Check this beauty:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40894234@N07/3766088391/
That's one moment. Not separated moments.
I care less about definitions than about shooting.
Cheers,
Juan
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
The shot Andreas Feininger did with the navy helicopter - would that be considered multi exposure though it was done with strobes? The OP asked about a button on his camera not whether the genre has merit. I say for time lapse yes and overlapping shots no. Just personal preference. YMMV.
davidtth
Established
yup, for time lapse use and def not for layering shot 
sig
Well-known
Juan, maybe care less about rules and more about shooting would be nice too.....
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Juan, maybe care less about rules and more about shooting would be nice too.....
Which rules?
Cheers,
Juan
sig
Well-known
The reason for no multi exposure on Ms is probably because Leica does not think it is any need for it. Mechanically (I believe) it is not very difficult to implement it.
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