healyzh
Well-known
Out of curiosity, if a used M9 needed repair, what sort of repair costs would I be looking at? Would there be any problems with getting a used one worked on?
As I understand it, even though it includes a warranty card that was never filled out, that's worthless.
Zane
As I understand it, even though it includes a warranty card that was never filled out, that's worthless.
Zane
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Well, what kind of answer do you expect to that question, I mean other than "it depends"? It makes a difference whether you have to repair a missing piece of body covering or a cracked LC display.
Leica service in general is not cheap, other than that it depends on what will happen to your M9.
Leica service in general is not cheap, other than that it depends on what will happen to your M9.
Shade
Well-known
Yeah as mentioned, you can't really determine the cost of the repair if you don't mention what's broken. I'm pretty sure a cracked lcd is much cheaper than replacing the sensor. However, Leica repairs in general are above average.
And yes, a used m9 if in still great condition it shouldn't be much of a problem.
And yes, a used m9 if in still great condition it shouldn't be much of a problem.
thompsonks
Well-known
Nobody but Leica can fix M9 electronics. And my experience is that despite formal warranty limitations, they'll make failure-repairs (as distinct from damage repairs) even if you aren't the original owner.
Kirk
Kirk
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
try to find out if you can pay Leica the extended warranty fee and get a year's worth of warranty. It would be worth it because if Leica charges you for the repairs (and they definitely will) they will cost more than the extended warranty price.
Good luck
Phil Forrest
Good luck
Phil Forrest
healyzh
Well-known
I'm just trying to get an idea as to what to expect price wise if there is a problem (i.e. can I afford to repair it).
The camera in question had about 130 shutter actuations, looks like it's never been used, was only $5,000US and purchased from a reputable dealer.
The camera in question had about 130 shutter actuations, looks like it's never been used, was only $5,000US and purchased from a reputable dealer.
Jeff S
Well-known
The dealer should stand behind the camera for a reasonable period, and should be able to answer any warranty questions you might have. If not, I wouldn't consider them a "reputable" Leica dealer and would search elsewhere.
Jeff
Jeff
healyzh
Well-known
They have a 10 day period for defects, and they were selling it on consignment. It wasn't a planned purchase, I was planning to buy a Leica IIIa, but found myself walking out with an M9.
jamato8
Corroding tank M9 35 ASPH
Well rather than parts coming apart, as with the LCD screen, which you can replace yourself on the Canon cameras, the entire assembly of the M9 has to be replaced at around $650. I would image the sensor is a few thousand and the shutter, I don't know but more like the cost of some other good cameras. I just pray mine holds up for some time once the warranty wears off.
jamato8
Corroding tank M9 35 ASPH
The topic is more interesting here than being shuffled off to the repair thread, where mine got changed to. Since it is about the M9 and the specifics of it, I think these posts should be here rather than somewhere where they will get lost.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Warranty extension is only available to the original purchaser/owner.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Or get an M9P (or indeed any) upgrade. Wouldn't that extend the warranty?
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
N
Nikon Bob
Guest
Getting the M9P upgrade on a used M9 to gain warranty would mitigate any savings in buying a used M9 in the first place. Granted you now have an M9P but defeats the purpose of buying used which is to save money in the first place. Tough call buying used electronics without warranty, you pays yer money and you takes yer chances for the most part. It depends on the used cost of the item also. I would not worry about buying a used EP1 that is out of warranty, for example, and pitching it if it required major out of warranty work. I can't say I would feel comfortable doing the same with an M9 that is out of warranty and needs major repairs.
Bob
Bob
Jeff S
Well-known
Warranty extension is only available to the original purchaser/owner.
Not entirely true. Outside the US, the international warranty is is transferable for the stated period. And, even for US purchasers, if one ships the camera to Solms, the international warranty will be honored. The Passport warranty, separate from the basic warranty, is also offered differently.
Read this thread, from the Leica Forum, all the way through and you'll get an idea of the confusion, and frustration, resulting from these disparate practices.
Jeff
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250swb
Well-known
The camera in question had about 130 shutter actuations,quote]
130 shutter actuations is 'new' (if true). On average any brand new M9 from a Leica dealer will show from 50 to 250 shutter actuations made during the testing of the camera at the factory. Leica do not set the counter back to 'zero'. Ensure you aren't looking at the file numbers in a folder on an SD card, these can be reset. Look for the 'Image Unique ID' of the last image shot, its a hexadecimal number in the EXIF file. When converted to decimal it tells you the exact number of actuations.
Steve
healyzh
Well-known
130 shutter actuations is 'new' (if true). On average any brand new M9 from a Leica dealer will show from 50 to 250 shutter actuations made during the testing of the camera at the factory. Leica do not set the counter back to 'zero'. Ensure you aren't looking at the file numbers in a folder on an SD card, these can be reset. Look for the 'Image Unique ID' of the last image shot, its a hexadecimal number in the EXIF file. When converted to decimal it tells you the exact number of actuations.
Steve
The file numbers started about 46 in the store. I used a M9Info to determine that file L1000049 is the 132nd shutter actuation.
Zane
250swb
Well-known
The file numbers started about 46 in the store. I used a M9Info to determine that file L1000049 is the 132nd shutter actuation.
Zane
No, that is the file number of the photograph. I will repeat myself. File numbers can be zero'd. Any file starting with 'L' is not the number of actuations. Look in the EXIF file of the last photograph for the 'Image Unique ID' number. That is a hexadecimal number that needs converting into decimal.
Steve
healyzh
Well-known
Steve, you missed my point. The software tool M9Info displays that without having to monkey about with hex values. File L1000049 on this camera *IS* the 132nd photo taken. The "Image Unique ID" confirms that, BTW.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Steve, you missed my point. The software tool M9Info displays that without having to monkey about with hex values. File L1000049 on this camera *IS* the 132nd photo taken. The "Image Unique ID" confirms that, BTW.
Indeed it would have been quite obvious that this is what you meant, given that there is no mathematically straightforward way that the 49 in L1000049 could correspond to no. 132 (unless you assume something utterly bizarre like that the numbers are in base 30 3/4).
250swb
Well-known
Indeed it would have been quite obvious that this is what you meant, given that there is no mathematically straightforward way that the 49 in L1000049 could correspond to no. 132 (unless you assume something utterly bizarre like that the numbers are in base 30 3/4).
Or the less bizarre and more logical solution that there could have been more than one folder on the card to calculate a bogus total number of actuations from. Sometimes the answer can be in a simple disguise.
healyzh, thank you, I didn't know M9info could do that (not that I had ever heard of it anyway).
Steve
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