dave lackey
Veteran
Folks, I really don't want to sound grumpy. Seriously, I don't.
Please see Post #30 above.
I have started this thread for a few interested parties to learn about a specific camera and discuss it based on a body of information that has not been done before on RFF due to everyone's sidetracking previous threads about why they don't like Leica or the X series or why they like Fuji or Canikon or whatever. That is NOT what this thread is all about.
If you want to do that, start your own thread.:angel:
Please see Post #30 above.
I have started this thread for a few interested parties to learn about a specific camera and discuss it based on a body of information that has not been done before on RFF due to everyone's sidetracking previous threads about why they don't like Leica or the X series or why they like Fuji or Canikon or whatever. That is NOT what this thread is all about.
If you want to do that, start your own thread.:angel:
dave lackey
Veteran
The JOY of playing around with photographic gear! Just having fun.Yes, there is definitely potential...and this sort of closeup photo does not cost a dime extra!
Another straight up, no PP 8x12 image:
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A miniature model truck next to a Pierre Cardin pen...not a crop, straight out of the X1.
What, no one curious as to how this was done?
If anyone is interested, I can give you links to get those.
But, the images above were done with zero cash outlay and nothing attached to the X1.
robert blu
quiet photographer
...
But, the images above were done with zero cash outlay and nothing attached to the X1.
Of course I was curious but afraid to ask too private question! And now I'm even more curious....
robert
dmc
Bessa Driver
What, no one curious as to how this was done?
Ummm, I guess not! Sorry.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Seems to be a waste of time to try to have a rational discussion of this camera on this forum. Too bad.
Frank Petronio
Well-known
I'd consider an X2. It will be that much more attractive if someone confirms the Oly EVF fits safely!
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I'd consider an X2. It will be that much more attractive if someone confirms the Oly EVF fits safely!
Someone confirmed that it did on DPR recently.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1038&message=41516521
Frank Petronio
Well-known
DPR - Always a trustworthy source!
dave lackey
Veteran
The system bag....
It appears that the original Leica bag for the X1 is the same for the X2. Does anyone here use the bag with the X1? I am interested in the size of the bag and if it willl accommodate two X bodies(Thinking two used X1s...or one X1 and one X2 for a well-rounded kit)
To my eyes, looking at a few photos, it looks as if it will just fit, minus the battery charger but who wouldn't go out shooting without a handful of spare batteries anyway?
It also appears that it would accommodate a one camera one lens kit quite well, like the IIIF or even the M3.
It appears that the original Leica bag for the X1 is the same for the X2. Does anyone here use the bag with the X1? I am interested in the size of the bag and if it willl accommodate two X bodies(Thinking two used X1s...or one X1 and one X2 for a well-rounded kit)
To my eyes, looking at a few photos, it looks as if it will just fit, minus the battery charger but who wouldn't go out shooting without a handful of spare batteries anyway?
It also appears that it would accommodate a one camera one lens kit quite well, like the IIIF or even the M3.
When's the release date for the X2?
dave lackey
Veteran
John,
I may be mis-remembering (happens a lot these days), but someone on another forum ordered one and it seems that it was to be shipped at the end of May. I will try to confirm.
BTW, this is a very nice camera case for either the X1 or X2:
I may be mis-remembering (happens a lot these days), but someone on another forum ordered one and it seems that it was to be shipped at the end of May. I will try to confirm.
BTW, this is a very nice camera case for either the X1 or X2:

dave lackey
Veteran
John,
Just got an answer from B&H, they do not have a shipping date yet. :angel:
Just got an answer from B&H, they do not have a shipping date yet. :angel:
Lss
Well-known
Just curious, why two X1's?I am interested in the size of the bag and if it willl accommodate two X bodies(Thinking two used X1s...or one X1 and one X2 for a well-rounded kit)
dave lackey
Veteran
Just curious, why two X1's?
Backup. One for color, one for black and white. One to give an assistant when on a documentary project. Lots of reasons.
I now carry two cameras with me when working and I prefer the cameras to be as similar as possible. I like a black camera for black and white and a silver camera for color images.
It is foolish for me to not have options after going on location with associated costs or meeting clients only to have an equipment issue.:angel:
Not only that, but when I do a project, I do not mix film images with digital images, so, the M3 and other film cameras just do not fit for me when I am working on a "digital project". Keep in mind, this is a long-term plan due to financial constraints. The costs of X1 cameras have dropped dramatically and when it is possible to confirm my projects which will include the cost of gear acquisition, then, I can move forward.
John,
Just got an answer from B&H, they do not have a shipping date yet. :angel:
Thanks. A few months away I guess.
dave lackey
Veteran
Thanks. A few months away I guess.
The word on the "street" is by the end of May or middle of June. That's not bad!:angel:
dave lackey
Veteran
Backup. One for color, one for black and white. One to give an assistant when on a documentary project. Lots of reasons.
I now carry two cameras with me when working and I prefer the cameras to be as similar as possible. I like a black camera for black and white and a silver camera for color images.
It is foolish for me to not have options after going on location with associated costs or meeting clients only to have an equipment issue.:angel:
Not only that, but when I do a project, I do not mix film images with digital images, so, the M3 and other film cameras just do not fit for me when I am working on a "digital project". Keep in mind, this is a long-term plan due to financial constraints. The costs of X1 cameras have dropped dramatically and when it is possible to confirm my projects which will include the cost of gear acquisition, then, I can move forward.
Last Fall I had a "senior duh! moment"... shooting portraits for a friend of mine, I took the R4 and the M3 with the intent of using the R4 to meter especially in backlit situations. Worked okay for a few minutes until the batteries died in the R4, no problem, changed batteries. Shot with the R4, used the meter reading for the M3...and... FAIL!
The R4 was set on the wrong aperture setting and both rolls of film turned out some awful exposure in certain lighting situations!
So, with virtually similar cameras, I don't have to think, which is difficult for me to do when shooting anyway. I always try not to think.
On a side note, X1 cameras in good condition are quite affordable, so why not add the cost into the project as it is cheaper than using color film and paying for processing and developing at this point.
Frank Petronio
Well-known
So you haven't owned a X1 yet? Why not just get one to try first, before committing to two?
Doing professional work means having camera redundancy but doing self-assignments and personal work means you can trade that boring redundancy for variety and options. Perhaps a different yet complimentary camera, a different format, focal length, etc.? I know that I can be perfectly happy shooting with the "other camera" while the first is being repaired or replaced.
Doing professional work means having camera redundancy but doing self-assignments and personal work means you can trade that boring redundancy for variety and options. Perhaps a different yet complimentary camera, a different format, focal length, etc.? I know that I can be perfectly happy shooting with the "other camera" while the first is being repaired or replaced.
dave lackey
Veteran
So you haven't owned a X1 yet? Why not just get one to try first, before committing to two?
Doing professional work means having camera redundancy but doing self-assignments and personal work means you can trade that boring redundancy for variety and options. Perhaps a different yet complimentary camera, a different format, focal length, etc.?
Yes, Frank, I have been using loaners for about four months now. Thoroughly enjoy this camera! It works well for me as I get used to a 35mm pov.
I gave up DSLRs after a decade + of using them. I hate general P&S cameras but the entire experience of the X1 from the aesthetics, size, IQ and ergonomics works very well for me, enough that I do not care to look at any other cameras.
Down the road, the M bodies may work but I can buy two X1 cameras for far less than an M8 body, not even considering the cost of lenses! Cost is a huge factor for me, that is why I have set up a loaner program just for me...:angel:
This is a crop from one of the first images from a friend's X1 on a grey, rainy day in February:
Again, for what I do (small town documentaries), it works very well. And portraits are amazing as well! I simply love the camera.
Another trial shot AFTER the one above, in the rain:
dave lackey
Veteran
A quick snapshot while camping before Easter.
No effort at all...no post work...no flash...no sweat.
Since then, I have been working on some creative portraits and hope to post some decent images in the future.
Hopefully, I will be able to rise to this level:
http://www.flickriver.com/groups/leicax1/pool/interesting/
No effort at all...no post work...no flash...no sweat.
Since then, I have been working on some creative portraits and hope to post some decent images in the future.
Hopefully, I will be able to rise to this level:
http://www.flickriver.com/groups/leicax1/pool/interesting/
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