waileong
Well-known
I'm hit by the Xtol sudden death syndrome!
Fred R.
Established
I've never suffered that. Guess I used it up quickly enough. Used water from an untreated creek, too!
Was it a one gallon package?
How much film did you loose?
Was it a one gallon package?
How much film did you loose?
joeswe
Well-known
sorry to hear about your mishap, here are four basic steps how to avoid to repeat that unpleasant experience:
1) use de-mineralized water for the stock solution
2) when solving the powders, don't introduce oxygen into the developer by shaking the container, instead use a chemical mixer like this one
3) use a 5 liter wine bladder for storage, which is a very simple and effective way to keep the stock solution protected from oxygen and light at all times
4) note the date you prepared the stock solution, if older than 6 months or in doubt do a quick test with a piece of cut off film header
1) use de-mineralized water for the stock solution
2) when solving the powders, don't introduce oxygen into the developer by shaking the container, instead use a chemical mixer like this one
3) use a 5 liter wine bladder for storage, which is a very simple and effective way to keep the stock solution protected from oxygen and light at all times
4) note the date you prepared the stock solution, if older than 6 months or in doubt do a quick test with a piece of cut off film header
waileong
Well-known
Thanks
Thanks
One roll. And it was the last bit of my 5-litre package too!
Thanks
I've never suffered that. Guess I used it up quickly enough. Used water from an untreated creek, too!
Was it a one gallon package?
How much film did you loose?
One roll. And it was the last bit of my 5-litre package too!
ath
Well-known
So certainly not "sudden" death!And it was the last bit of my 5-litre package too!
KenR
Well-known
This is why I stick with HC110 - it never gives up, even when it looks like brown mud.
waileong
Well-known
It's sudden death
It's sudden death
It's sudden death because it just dies. Xtol doesn't just become weaker with age, it just suddenly stops performing.
It's sudden death
So certainly not "sudden" death!
It's sudden death because it just dies. Xtol doesn't just become weaker with age, it just suddenly stops performing.
ath
Well-known
How old was it? How was it stored? Did you exceed the storage times stated in the datasheet?
Sudden death is a specific term related to a specific chemical reaction resulting in dead developer.
If stored properly XTOL does become weaker over time.
XTOL is less robust than other developers when not stored properly. Thats all.
Sudden death is a specific term related to a specific chemical reaction resulting in dead developer.
If stored properly XTOL does become weaker over time.
XTOL is less robust than other developers when not stored properly. Thats all.
waileong
Well-known
That doesn't change the fact that it dies suddenly.
How old was it? How was it stored? Did you exceed the storage times stated in the datasheet?
Sudden death is a specific term related to a specific chemical reaction resulting in dead developer.
If stored properly XTOL does become weaker over time.
XTOL is less robust than other developers when not stored properly. Thats all.
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