Using glass with Epson V700 MF holder

You can also cut up rubber refrigerator magnets and put them in a sandwich to create a T-lock. I've never had much trouble with buckling though. Would be more convenient to have the BS holder.

The BS holder's main advantage for 120 and 4x5 is adjustability, if you can't get the stock holder to focus. It definitely helps for 35mm curl, which needs all the help it can get with a V700.

Certainly curious to see what this Plustek 120 can do...

- Charlie
 
BardParker said:
Silly question....but I just bought a v700 and want to get this right. When using books to flatten negatives, do you have the negs in a plastic protector (vue-all, or Print-file) or do you put them bare in the pages of the book?

Kent
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raid said:
I would keep the protector sleeves on. I am also not a scanner pro.
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Mine go in pages too. They are then placed under my library of Ansel Adams' books. To date, Mr. Adams' books have not caused an improvement in my negatives. The books do make them flat after awhile.

Wayne
 
I just bought a v700, on it's way now. It doesn't include any film holders, I was going to get the betterscanning mf holders, but when I sent them an email they said they have changed production of the mf holder (the site doesn't show this yet). The new one does not have t-locks and instead has 2 pieces of an glass. This sounds great but with (cheap) shipping it was $150. I just couldnt do it, too much money. I ordered a sheet of an glass from focal point for $45 and I'm going to tape my negs to the underside and adjust the height with dimes, I'm sure this will be a royal pain in the ass but I'm saving $100. Anyone ever done this before? I know the large format guys do this all the time.
 
raid said:
Let us know how things will work out for you and how many dimes were needed for the best height.
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Worked great but was a total pain in the ass, using 3 very thin washers for optimum height. Now using the betterscanning holder with glass for 120, but still using the tape method for 35mm.
 
raid said:
This is costly. Shoot. 😡
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Well, it was not particularly inexpensive on the surface.

BUT...

Regarding my up front costs in Hasselblad and Leica gear, my cost of film and either offsite processing costs or at-home developing time, it seemed to be poor economy to have the weakest link as the last. That is: the scan.

Furthermore, I had already owned the V750 for several years and I really wanted to see what more I could wring from it. All in, I am at about half the cost of the new Plustek 120 that I had been so patiently waiting for. I feel confident that my 120 results will better than 50% as good as the new Plustek.

The variability in my purchasing equation will be determined by the results I get from 35mm. I also feel that they will be significantly improved though perhaps not optimal. The big difference here (I bought two 35mm ANR) is that I am expecting to fairly quickly run a *pretty good* batch scan of 12 frames that will either serve as a proof OR a proper scan indeed -if acceptable. I had to weigh the time to do the batch vs the one-scan-at-a-time I would be getting from a Plustek 8100, or similar. Time is money. All that said, the 8100 would likely be the scanner I will choose for 35mm if the V750/BS combination proves to only be able to provide a proof scan. The 8100 will come in as a pinch hitter for the perhaps 1-2-3 frames/roll that I want to do something "bigger" with.

So, at the end of the day ... I determined that this route while perhaps expensive, was not costly.
 
It sounds like there are a few of us who have decided that the 120 is just a little too expensive for comfort. I also ordered the better scanning 120/ANR glass holders for my V700, and a Plustek 8100. The latter is waiting at work to be picked up so I'll spend the weekend comparing my V700 35mm scans with the scans from the 8100. One thing that really annoys me about the V700 scans is that one edge of the scans is often much brighter than the rest of the frame (with both 35mm and 120). I have to darken it by hand. I'm hoping the 8100 holders might hold the film flatter too but perhaps this will be asking too much.
Pete
 
Pete,

Really looking FWD to your testing the 8100 this weekend! My finger is on the trigger!

My BS order is the mail, so I too will be busily scanning away this weekend!

I shall actually hope for rain!
 
Well. the difference is remarkable. I can't find a sharper height for my V700 film holder. These are with no colour correction or sharpening (at least no extra sharpening than Silverfast does - I can't find any adjustment relating to sharpening)

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It makes me want to consider the Plustek120 again because I realise how much sharper the medium format scans will be. Hopefully when my better scanning holders and anr glass comes there will be a night and day improvement.
Pete
 
Thanks Pete! GOOD GRAVY! Mo' money, mo' money!

That said ... I am awaiting the postal truck right now, and it is raining!

I am going to give it my best this weekend.
 
Well, no time to play yet ... but I had to comment upon unboxing.

Not sure what I was expecting, but the BS 120 holder is a work of art -as far as holders go.

Very impressive, very professionally finished. Two very early thumbs up!
 
As long as the film is reasonably flat, the Epson 120 holder, flimsy as it may be, works just fine in my experience. I even carved the edges a bit with an x-acto knife to reveal more of the film edge for full frame scanning. My 120 scans are acceptably sharp with this method.
Best, Jim
 
Well, pretty happy here...

The 120 results are appreciably better!

The 35 results range from -about the same- to shockingly better. In the latter case, it was compared to a previous scan of curly film.

The big difference is the speed and convenience in handling! As mentioned, time is money, and the holder and ANR glass making the whole task a pleasure compared to the previous hair-pulling.

More later...
 
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