zvos1
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sleepyhead
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richardhkirkando
Well-known
FWIW, I've never noticed the typical wide-angle corner color shifts/softness with my 28mm Elmarit-M on the NEX-7, though I suppose the 'cron may be different.
krice58
Member
I have had the Nex 7 for the past year or so and like it very much for the most part. I use my M mount Leica and Zeiss lenses on it as well as use it for its auto-focus and compact size. When using my 21mm Biogon it will exhibit a slight red cast in the corners. Nothing too dramatic and definitely fixable in post if you want to go to the effort, but still there nonetheless.
However, I did just sell it in favor of the Nex 6, mainly for the improved phase-detect auto-focus of the Nex 6. I found I didn't really use the extra megapixels of the Nex 7, but the continuous AF of the Nex 7 is just not very good. I'm really at least as reliable with my rangefinder on moving targets as the Nex 7. The Nex 6 continuous AF is very, very good and, at least for me, it makes the Nex 6 a perfect complement for my rangefinder cameras as I can use all my M lenses and I have a compact, fast, accurate autofocus camera for when I need that.
I expected to be able to notice better high ISO performance on the Nex 6 vs the Nex 7 but when I put the files side by side I really could tell very little difference and I suspect if the Nex 7 files were down-rezzed to 16Mpix, noise would be near identical.
However, I did just sell it in favor of the Nex 6, mainly for the improved phase-detect auto-focus of the Nex 6. I found I didn't really use the extra megapixels of the Nex 7, but the continuous AF of the Nex 7 is just not very good. I'm really at least as reliable with my rangefinder on moving targets as the Nex 7. The Nex 6 continuous AF is very, very good and, at least for me, it makes the Nex 6 a perfect complement for my rangefinder cameras as I can use all my M lenses and I have a compact, fast, accurate autofocus camera for when I need that.
I expected to be able to notice better high ISO performance on the Nex 6 vs the Nex 7 but when I put the files side by side I really could tell very little difference and I suspect if the Nex 7 files were down-rezzed to 16Mpix, noise would be near identical.
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
To say the Nex 7 doesn't support M-wides isn't quite right. It does, as long as you understand the limitations, and have a workflow that lets you deal with it.
My Standard lens for my 7, is the CV 25mm f4 (And have used many others). There is a color shifting in the corners, but that's it. Easily adjusted with a basic layer mask, or with CornerFix - something I only bother to do for selects. I'm not going to edit every single picture - just the winners. Same as I wouldn't print every picture either. In that context, it's a relative non-issue.
The Nex 6 does handle wides better, and had it been released when I bought my 7, I probably would have gone with it for this aspect alone. But the 7 is still a great camera.
My Standard lens for my 7, is the CV 25mm f4 (And have used many others). There is a color shifting in the corners, but that's it. Easily adjusted with a basic layer mask, or with CornerFix - something I only bother to do for selects. I'm not going to edit every single picture - just the winners. Same as I wouldn't print every picture either. In that context, it's a relative non-issue.
The Nex 6 does handle wides better, and had it been released when I bought my 7, I probably would have gone with it for this aspect alone. But the 7 is still a great camera.
CK Dexter Haven
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Can you wait for the 7n?
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-sony-nex-7n-to-be-announced-in-one-month/
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-sony-nex-7n-to-be-announced-in-one-month/
krice58
Member
There is one other consideration when comparing these two cameras (outside of the consumer features like wi-fi, apps, etc... that are available on the Nex 6) and that is the controls. Then Nex 7 has Tri-Navi which includes 2 dials (knobs) on the top of the camera plus the rear wheel. Between these three controls you can control shutter speed, aperture and ISO (these can be mapped to control some other functions if you want). You also have to use the dial and LCD on the back to change modes (P, A, T, M).
The Nex 6, on the other hand has a very different interface. It has the traditional mode dial on the top of the camera (which makes it very easy and simple to change modes) and just below (and concentric with the mode dial) is another dial that allows you to control shutter speed or aperture (depending on the mode chosen). You still have to use the wheel on the back to change ISO, but exposure can easily be changed using this dial.
I know a lot of people like the Nex 7 Tri-Navi system, but I could never get quite comfortable with it and I found it somewhat cumbersome. The Nex 6 system is more direct, simpler and feels a bit more traditional at least for me. I definitely prefer the Nex 6 controls and user interface.
YMMV
The Nex 6, on the other hand has a very different interface. It has the traditional mode dial on the top of the camera (which makes it very easy and simple to change modes) and just below (and concentric with the mode dial) is another dial that allows you to control shutter speed or aperture (depending on the mode chosen). You still have to use the wheel on the back to change ISO, but exposure can easily be changed using this dial.
I know a lot of people like the Nex 7 Tri-Navi system, but I could never get quite comfortable with it and I found it somewhat cumbersome. The Nex 6 system is more direct, simpler and feels a bit more traditional at least for me. I definitely prefer the Nex 6 controls and user interface.
YMMV
mawz
Established
Note the Wifi isn't just a gimmick, two of the options that the PlayMemories app for smartphones offers is a wireless remote release and enhanced bracketing capabilities, the PlayMemories app requires the wifi capability of the 6 and 5R.
Another reason to look at the 6 is that it supports the just announced wired remote release, which won't work with the 7 as the 7 lacks the new smart shoe that the remote release plugs into.
I'm a NEX-7 shooter and generally love it, but the lack of a proper remote release has been a big issue for me.
Another reason to look at the 6 is that it supports the just announced wired remote release, which won't work with the 7 as the 7 lacks the new smart shoe that the remote release plugs into.
I'm a NEX-7 shooter and generally love it, but the lack of a proper remote release has been a big issue for me.
krice58
Member
This works with the nex 7. http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...1&productId=8198552921666488655#compatability
pvdhaar
Peter
The reasons to choose the NEX-6 over the NEX-7 for me were the phase detect AF, the 16MP sensor that has a slight advantage at high iso, and to some lesser degree the price. That said, I could have lived with the NEX-7 perfectly fine..
3dit0r
Member
I haven't used the 7, but owned the 5N and now the 6.
First things first- I wouldn't buy an NEX-7 now, wait as the 7N is supposed to be announced in April and hit stores in May:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-some-more-nex-7n-info-in-stock-in-may/
I know that's a rumours site, but I've always found it's accurate when he rates the rumour 4/5. The 7N is supposed to have, among other things, an EVF which is twice the resolution of the current one, which might be very nice, and better ISO performance, etc. Remains to be seen whether they fixed the magenta fringing, etc., on legacy lenses...
Anyway, I love the 6 and would only give it up for an improved 7, or a NEX-FF (and even then I'd think hard).
By the way, as a former Leica user, I find the Sony and Zeiss primes are extremely good, even wide open (50 f/1.8, 35 f/1.8 and 24 f/1.8) and the 10-18 f/4 is also right up there- definitely not a second rate lens by any standards. With the new Zeiss primes arriving shortly, you shouldn't be without decent native glass for any of these bodies in a moment.
There was a post earlier about battery drain, and I partly agree, BUT I discovered a little trick in camera setup which a) I love and use as my default everyday setting now and b) it saves battery life a whole load. In settings, set the rear display to 'Quick Navi', which shows all the camera's settings at a glance on a black background - this way not only can you see all your settings between shooting, but the sensor only gets turned on when you raise your eye to the EVF (apparently all other settings with the rear screen turned on, keep the sensor on. Also set your power saving options to max. Alternatively, just turn it off when not shooting
Might be a nice low mileage 6 up for sale if the new 7N looks amazing...
First things first- I wouldn't buy an NEX-7 now, wait as the 7N is supposed to be announced in April and hit stores in May:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-some-more-nex-7n-info-in-stock-in-may/
I know that's a rumours site, but I've always found it's accurate when he rates the rumour 4/5. The 7N is supposed to have, among other things, an EVF which is twice the resolution of the current one, which might be very nice, and better ISO performance, etc. Remains to be seen whether they fixed the magenta fringing, etc., on legacy lenses...
Anyway, I love the 6 and would only give it up for an improved 7, or a NEX-FF (and even then I'd think hard).
By the way, as a former Leica user, I find the Sony and Zeiss primes are extremely good, even wide open (50 f/1.8, 35 f/1.8 and 24 f/1.8) and the 10-18 f/4 is also right up there- definitely not a second rate lens by any standards. With the new Zeiss primes arriving shortly, you shouldn't be without decent native glass for any of these bodies in a moment.
There was a post earlier about battery drain, and I partly agree, BUT I discovered a little trick in camera setup which a) I love and use as my default everyday setting now and b) it saves battery life a whole load. In settings, set the rear display to 'Quick Navi', which shows all the camera's settings at a glance on a black background - this way not only can you see all your settings between shooting, but the sensor only gets turned on when you raise your eye to the EVF (apparently all other settings with the rear screen turned on, keep the sensor on. Also set your power saving options to max. Alternatively, just turn it off when not shooting
Might be a nice low mileage 6 up for sale if the new 7N looks amazing...