A Hasselblad, more than 40 years after first looking.

JeffS7444 said:
So the older Hassy 1000F/1600 lenses simply twist onto the Kiev 88 body without fuss? I might like to try a Kodak Ektar or two.

While my Hasselblad 500c restoration project was a success, that camera is currently set aside as I await the arrival of a brighter focusing screen. Because as currently configured, when used with the 120/5.6 S-Planar lens, the view is no joy, even in bright daylight conditions.

What failed on your Kiev 88? My Salyut-S arrived with non-functioning second shutter curtain due to a couple of ribbons which had snapped. While I had it apart for repairs, I figured I'd see if the camera could be improved by use of modern wonder-materials to reduce friction and allow me to minimize the amount of force needed to operate it. While it's too soon for me to say anything about improved reliability, I will say this about the repaired camera: I never realized that winding action on a Kiev-88/Salyut camera could feel almost buttery-smooth and lighter than stock.
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From what I understand where the threads start on the Kiev vs the Hasselblad lenses makes a difference, so they may or may not work. Not completely sure.

I have a 135 Ektar and it’s okay but I need to have it shimmed for proper infinity focus. I prefer the 135mm Sonnar. As far as the 80 Ektar goes, I’ve thought about one off and on over the last year and I probably won’t get one. Average price for them is around $1500 And I can’t see what they’d do that’s so much different than the Zeiss Planars. On the other hand, those 30mm Zodiacs are tempting. I also have one of those 52mm Kaligars but no adapter - if anyone has one please let me know!
 
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Hasselblad 203Fe bought brand new with the Zoom 60-120mm which is a crazy heavy lens.
I use this camera and the lens to do street photography. Many of my older photos are done on hand held. I also had a 150mm Sonnar which is a shorter lens. But the quality of all the photos are amazing. It was a bit challenge to to do street photography with a long lens ( Zoom ) with a 400 ASA on B&W for an example. But this camera had never disappointed me .
 
JeffS7444 said:
So the older Hassy 1000F/1600 lenses simply twist onto the Kiev 88 body without fuss? I might like to try a Kodak Ektar or two.

While my Hasselblad 500c restoration project was a success, that camera is currently set aside as I await the arrival of a brighter focusing screen. Because as currently configured, when used with the 120/5.6 S-Planar lens, the view is no joy, even in bright daylight conditions.

What failed on your Kiev 88? My Salyut-S arrived with non-functioning second shutter curtain due to a couple of ribbons which had snapped. While I had it apart for repairs, I figured I'd see if the camera could be improved by use of modern wonder-materials to reduce friction and allow me to minimize the amount of force needed to operate it. While it's too soon for me to say anything about improved reliability, I will say this about the repaired camera: I never realized that winding action on a Kiev-88/Salyut camera could feel almost buttery-smooth and lighter than stock.
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Yes they screw in just fine. But you need to press the release button to screw it past the lock so it sits flush on the flange.

First, one ribbon on one of the curtains snapped. After the repair a couple shutter speeds didn't work (no slit between curtains), and then the winder jammed! Seems to be okay now. It's awesome that your Kiev runs smoothly. Mine stills feels pretty rough when there is film.
 
Retro-Grouch said:
What you've done with your Salyut sounds like what Arax used to do with their overhauls of FSU cameras. I had the pleasure of handling an Arax once, and I was shocked by just how good and tight and smooth everything felt, compared to the three Kievs I've owned (and discarded!) over the years. I do think those old FSU designs were sound, basically, but suffered from complete lack of quality control, and perhaps too much vodka at lunchtime. For someone like you who has the skills to do a repair and overhaul, they're a viable choice, but I will never try again!
The lenses are another story: dirt cheap, solidly made, and in my experience, pretty consistently good. I use some regularly.
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I recall drunks and slackers being classic subjects for the Soviet humor magazine Krokodil! But I imagine that the reality would have been less amusing and more dreary, like needing to meet production quotas despite chronic shortages of pretty much everything. It probably all made sense when viewed through the lens of Marxist-Leninist doctrine, at least as much as that ever made sense.
 
JeffS7444 said:
I recall drunks and slackers being classic subjects for the Soviet humor magazine Krokodil! But I imagine that the reality would have been less amusing and more dreary, like needing to meet production quotas despite chronic shortages of pretty much everything. It probably all made sense when viewed through the lens of Marxist-Leninist doctrine, at least as much as that ever made sense.
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A joke of the period was."We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us."
 
OlivierAOP said:
Yes they screw in just fine. But you need to press the release button to screw it past the lock so it sits flush on the flange.

First, one ribbon on one of the curtains snapped. After the repair a couple shutter speeds didn't work (no slit between curtains), and then the winder jammed! Seems to be okay now. It's awesome that your Kiev runs smoothly. Mine stills feels pretty rough when there is film.
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Sweet, now I just need to find some old Hassy 1000F glass for oh, say $100.

Crazy thing about my older-style Kiev film magazine is how much friction there is with the film spools being clamped into place with such stout springs, and rubbing up against the roughly-textured "arms". Got an idea for an easy-peasy fix, but it'll have to wait until I finish the current roll of film. Hasselblad has a nearly identical setup, but there, attention to little details makes all the difference.
 
Vince Lupo said:
From what I understand where the threads start on the Kiev vs the Hasselblad lenses makes a difference, so they may or may not work. Not completely sure.

I have a 135 Ektar and it’s okay but I need to have it shimmed for proper infinity focus. I prefer the 135mm Sonnar. As far as the 80 Ektar goes, I’ve thought about one off and on over the last year and I probably won’t get one. Average price for them is around $1500 And I can’t see what they’d do that’s so much different than the Zeiss Planars. On the other hand, those 30mm Zodiacs are tempting. I also have one of those 52mm Kaligars but no adapter - if anyone has one please let me know!
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Uh, what, $1500? Unlike the foolish(er) days of my youth in high-end audio and Leica M cameras, my older self shall not take the high price as a challenge to my manhood, such as it is! Why, $1500 would keep me supplied with tea and chocolate for at least a year.

You must have one of those special Ektars which can see beyond the infinite: At least that's how I might like to describe it if I had one to sell on eBay.
 
JeffS7444 said:
Uh, what, $1500? Unlike the foolish(er) days of my youth in high-end audio and Leica M cameras, my older self shall not take the high price as a challenge to my manhood, such as it is! Why, $1500 would keep me supplied with tea and chocolate for at least a year.

You must have one of those special Ektars which can see beyond the infinite: At least that's how I might like to describe it if I had one to sell on eBay.
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Yeah that’s what I’m seeing them go for (the 80/2.8 Ektars). I don’t think I’ve ever seen them for under $1000. The 135’s are somewhat less, but really not a whole lot. Believe me I wish I could find an ‘inexpensive’ 80, but they just don’t seem to be out there. The Tessars are good enough for me.

Actually my 135 doesn’t see beyond the infinite, though wouldn’t that be cool if it did! Unfortunately it’s less - odd as at closer distance settings it’s fine.
 
JeffS7444 said:
Sweet, now I just need to find some old Hassy 1000F glass for oh, say $100.

Crazy thing about my older-style Kiev film magazine is how much friction there is with the film spools being clamped into place with such stout springs, and rubbing up against the roughly-textured "arms". Got an idea for an easy-peasy fix, but it'll have to wait until I finish the current roll of film. Hasselblad has a nearly identical setup, but there, attention to little details makes all the difference.
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I'd love to hear your idea for a fix!

I have the 80mm Ektar. So far it's been underwhelming in my limited testing. Some focus shift and it gets sharp at f/11. The construction is lovely; there's only 6-7 screws total.

Also have the 135mm Sonnar, with some edge separation on both doublets. It's pretty sharp but I think it has a bit of shift as well.
 
OlivierAOP said:
I'd love to hear your idea for a fix!

I have the 80mm Ektar. So far it's been underwhelming in my limited testing. Some focus shift and it gets sharp at f/11. The construction is lovely; there's only 6-7 screws total.

Also have the 135mm Sonnar, with some edge separation on both doublets. It's pretty sharp but I think it has a bit of shift as well.
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On my particular 1979 Kiev film back, maybe the designers used thinner metal 120 film spools as their reference. But when I use a modern plastic part, it rubs up against the sides of the retainer arms, and makes winding effort much higher than it ought to be. My idea was to try adding thin spacers so that the spools would no longer rub, else put some sort of lower-friction material where they do. At the moment, I've simply got a thin coat of dry lubricant there, and even that helps a lot.
 
Thanks. Mine is only a bit tight on the supply side. I bent the folding holder a little bit. We'll see if that helps.
 
With the 1000f,135/3.5 Sonnar and CFV II 50C digital back. We'd been having some unsettled weather in eastern Ontario last week, which I particularly like. Not a fan of sunny days at all, truth be known. The water looked really nice to me on this day at Foley Mountain Conservation Area and these grasses poking out caught my attention. Might just make a print of this one :)


Little Bay by Vince Lupo, on Flickr
 
Like that shot Cyriljay. I still haven’t mastered quoting in this new RFF. Presume (hope) it was the 150 you lugged to the roof of Notre Dame.
 
Vince, your close to home pics often remind me of Garry Winogrand's thematic "I sometimes photograph things just to see what they look like photographed."
The results are often surprisingly wonderful, a gift from photography itself.
...thanks!
 
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