Thypoch lenses from China

Jay is busy playing Tesla cyber truck and sports car, no time to show them his collections. Chinese manufacturers mentality is quick money. And the shortcoming is engines, they need 100 years accumulated experience. Just like lens making. EV is simply, an enlarged golf car motor plus sofa and refrigerator under a refined shell

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As you said “Chinese manufacturers mentality is quick money.” In that regard, Thypoch or LLL would make no difference to users/shooters looking for a budget M mount lens. It’s the price/performance ratio that counts.

While I don’t believe you are a troll or fan boy (like u know who😀), you seem to have an axe to grind with LLL which I think is not fair nor necessary.
I do not work for any brands I praised or criticized in here, or single out LLL or other Chinese Shanzhai manufacturers. I just express my personal opinions and hopes for Chinese manufacturers will get better not just copy others. I do not like copy, I like innovation, I do not like fake stuff, if I can not afford real one, I do not just buy fake to satisfied my ego.
 
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I have a Skyllaney Bertele Sonnar 5cm f/2.0 lens. It is pretty much a copy of the 1934 CZJ 5cm f/2.0 Sonnar. It has some improvements that make it very nice. It eliminates glitches in the original and delivers a nice image. Is this a junk copy?
 
As you said “Chinese manufacturers mentality is quick money.” In that regard, Thypoch or LLL would make no difference to users/shooters looking for a budget M mount lens. It’s the price/performance ratio that counts.

While I don’t believe you are a troll or fan boy (like u know who😀), you seem to have an axe to grind with LLL which I think is not fair nor necessary.

I am a fanboy. And super proud of it. It makes people jealous.

Like, am I really supposed to not use my Leicas? Should I store my Leicas and be less dumb by using copies?
Like, do I REALLY have to eat McDonald’s? I’d be crazy not to, a Big Bac is really cheap after all…

Yes, a masterpiece is a masterpiece regardless of the equipment used yadda yadda. We know the salad.
As a certified fanboy, there’s just now way I’ll be spending hours in the darkroom working on negatives shot on leica copies while my genuine Leicas get no use… like, what kind of Clown would that make me…
 
I am a fanboy. And super proud of it. It makes people jealous.
I have never been jealous of people that restrict themselves to only leica products, I feel sad for them. Purposely choosing to ignore the myriad varieties of lenses and the unique way that they render images is really just short-sighted in my opinion. One of my favorite lenses for portraits is the voigtlander Nokton for the Prominent camera. But It must be a piece of junk because Leitz did not make it. Zoltan the dog, wide open on Sony a7III
 
I am a fanboy. And super proud of it. It makes people jealous.

Like, am I really supposed to not use my Leicas? Should I store my Leicas and be less dumb by using copies?
Like, do I REALLY have to eat McDonald’s? I’d be crazy not to, a Big Bac is really cheap after all…

Yes, a masterpiece is a masterpiece regardless of the equipment used yadda yadda. We know the salad.
As a certified fanboy, there’s just now way I’ll be spending hours in the darkroom working on negatives shot on leica copies while my genuine Leicas get no use… like, what kind of Clown would that make me…
Leica cameras and lenses are meant to be used. Why else would you want to own them?
 
I have a Skyllaney Bertele Sonnar 5cm f/2.0 lens. It is pretty much a copy of the 1934 CZJ 5cm f/2.0 Sonnar. It has some improvements that make it very nice. It eliminates glitches in the original and delivers a nice image. Is this a junk copy?

In your case the lens is not a junk, it is homage to a milestone, excellent optical design, just like these excellent Japanese Tessar copies like Minolta 75mm f3.5 on autocord.
 
I have never been jealous of people that restrict themselves to only leica products, I feel sad for them. Purposely choosing to ignore the myriad varieties of lenses and the unique way that they render images is really just short-sighted in my opinion. One of my favorite lenses for portraits is the voigtlander Nokton for the Prominent camera. But It must be a piece of junk because Leitz did not make it. Zoltan the dog, wide open on Sony a7III
Is this Leica images? Lovely peaceful, dog
 
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Is this Leica image? Lovely peaceful, dog
Zoltan was a great dog. Voigtlander Nokton 50/1.5 on Sony a7III. Getting back to the original idea of the thread, I think that it is pretty cool that Chinese companies as Thypoch and LLL are producing lenses. You don't have to like all of their products to appreciate what they are doing. I would never buy a $22,000 Taylor & Hobson Speed Panchro from eBay, but was very pleased with the $800 LLL SPII.
 
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In your case the lens is not a junk, it is homage to a milestone, excellent optical design, just like these excellent Japanese Tessar copies like Minolta 75mm f3.5 on autocord.

OK. What are your rules defining junk and other? BTW, I have a '57 KMZ Jupiter 8 which is also a copy of the CZJ 5cm f/2.0. It is an excellent lens. It cost $100.

 
OK. What are your rules defining junk and other? BTW, I have a '57 KMZ Jupiter 8 which is also a copy of the CZJ 5cm f/2.0. It is an excellent lens. It cost $100.


I agree with boojum, the early Jupiters, especially the KMZ versions, are usually really good lenses unless they have been molested by unskilled individuals in the past. boojum, I really like this image
 
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I am a fanboy. And super proud of it. It makes people jealous.

Like, am I really supposed to not use my Leicas? Should I store my Leicas and be less dumb by using copies?
Like, do I REALLY have to eat McDonald’s? I’d be crazy not to, a Big Bac is really cheap after all…

Yes, a masterpiece is a masterpiece regardless of the equipment used yadda yadda. We know the salad.
As a certified fanboy, there’s just now way I’ll be spending hours in the darkroom working on negatives shot on leica copies while my genuine Leicas get no use… like, what kind of Clown would that make me…
Admittedly, I occasionally have irrational emotional thoughts regarding Leica products. A used Panasonic S1 would be more practical for me than a used SL2S for many reasons, and cost a quarter the price, but I am drawn to the Leica more because... Leica?

As for Thypoch - again, I am very intrigued by their lenses, particularly the 28mm. The results from early reviewers seem to be appealing, so I will see if I can try one somewhere.
 
OK. What are your rules defining junk and other?
do not know what happened to vivitar brand, these made in China vivitar lens and filter are clearly con artists junk, labeled as MC, but from my naked eye, there is no coating at all, may have plastic elements too.
 

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do not know what happened to vivitar brand, these made in China vivitar lens and filter are clearly con artists junk, labeled as MC, but from my naked eye, there is no coating at all, may have plastic elements too.

That is an example, not a definition. Are you not clear on what you are saying?
 
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