Ororaro
Well-known
Compute-o-graphy (also known as digital) versus film phopotography, what’s your opinion?
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Again??? Really???
... sigh.
Compute-o-graphy. That's the term I've been looking for!
I used Fortran to process my my scanned negatives in the 1970s, and use Fortran to process DNG files from my Digital Leicas.
So little has changed. Well, the "Scanner" filled a Room in the 1970s and put things on Mag tape. They are smaller now. The computers got smaller too. The one I used in the 1970s filled a building and cost $8M. Displaying scanned images was also expensive. $100K for the image processor to see the images. The first Digital Imager I used took 4 racks of equipment. Digital cameras got a bit smaller.
I used Fortran to process my my scanned negatives in the 1970s, and use Fortran to process DNG files from my Digital Leicas.
So little has changed. Well, the "Scanner" filled a Room in the 1970s and put things on Mag tape. They are smaller now. The computers got smaller too. The one I used in the 1970s filled a building and cost $8M. Displaying scanned images was also expensive. $100K for the image processor to see the images. The first Digital Imager I used took 4 racks of equipment. Digital cameras got a bit smaller.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
How about this: cattle-slaughter-o-graphy vs digital photography?
(Ask yourself: what do they make film emulsion from?)
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(Ask yourself: what do they make film emulsion from?)
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Ororaro
Well-known
Is that wh I’m super addicted to sniffing the odor the film canister as soon as I open it?
Man, that sniff!
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
Any time I see a topic about "something vs. something" (anywhere), I go on red alert. I assume someone is urging me to join their little tribe, and membership is premised on hating the other tribe. Rarely does the reality match that tribalism; the interesting stuff in this world happens in the gray areas in between. Shoot whatever the hell you like, and more power to you!
Ororaro
Well-known
Nah! Not me.
Without a film camera, I don’t shoot. I’m hardwired like that. Trip to anywhere in the world with a digital camera? No thanks, I won’t shoot.
And it’s not like I *have* to shoot. It’s okay to not take pictures.
I've been involved in Digital vs Film debates for Five (1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s) decades. My favorite was the 90s. I calculated the data rate that would be required to match a Nikon F2a loaded with Panatomic-X running a Motor Drive at max rate, figuring about 100 lp/mm resolution with a top-notch lens.
The most expensive lens I own.
Made for an Optical Computer, 40 years ago. Performed Fourier Transforms in the Optical Domain.
Never used on a Camera.
Until now.
This is a $40K lens. I need to do some color correction in the future. It is corrected for a single wavelength, LASER
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TRUE Compute-o-Photography.
Made for an Optical Computer, 40 years ago. Performed Fourier Transforms in the Optical Domain.
Never used on a Camera.
Until now.
This is a $40K lens. I need to do some color correction in the future. It is corrected for a single wavelength, LASER
.TRUE Compute-o-Photography.
Ororaro
Well-known
The Lazer-O-Tron
Timmyjoe
Veteran
Yawn . . .
That's better than "Optical Broadband Correlator"...
Pinky to Lip, "COST 1 MILLION DOLLARS".
My optical engineer designed the optics for it, before he worked for me.
There was the Optical Computer versus the Digital Computer debate as well. Digital won out.
Pinky to Lip, "COST 1 MILLION DOLLARS".
My optical engineer designed the optics for it, before he worked for me.
There was the Optical Computer versus the Digital Computer debate as well. Digital won out.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I suppose you've never made any photographs with your smartphone, or don't own one of those either...
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I do not own one. But I have 16 computers setup in the house for work.
Ororaro
Well-known
Funny story- had a friend over to the house this week, he had his iPhone. He had read that the iPhone was always taking pictures of the user, for facial recognition. Someone had demonstrated this using an IR (VNIR) camera.
How many times does someone come over the house and hit me with a straight line like that. We ended up putting copper tape over the lens after watching it flash in IR.
Remember, the iPhone is always watching, always watching.
Ororaro
Well-known
The thing is, the screen itself could take photos…
JohnGellings
Well-known
Very original thread. I´ve never seen this question before. What's phopotography?
Ororaro
Well-known
I’m sure the debate is different today than what it was in 2020, 2017, and versus 2013.
Even Johngellings version 2025 is not the same person than Johngellings version 2016.
I’m curious, what’s your opinion on film photography in 2025?
JohnGellings
Well-known
I like photography in general. I no longer use film. However, I continue to view plenty of photography books that were made by film users. The history of photography is full of them. I don't discriminate though. I like it all. I prefer digital for color personally. I earned a BFA in Photography in the 90s, so I was very comfortable with film darkrooms both color and B&W as well as Cibachromes. Van Dyke Brown and Cyanotypes too.