MNS
Established
...even worse, I sold my late fathers M3 with it's Summicron 50mm DR, to get this M-P 240.
Hey ho, you never know, might keep going for a couple more years yet.
Hey ho, you never know, might keep going for a couple more years yet.
chuckroast
Well-known
...even worse, I sold my late fathers M3 with it's Summicron 50mm DR, to get this M-P 240.
Hey ho, you never know, might keep going for a couple more years yet.
Ouch. I'd get on B&H, Leica, and anyone else's backorder list I could. Supposedly they will come through, sooner or later.
This whole situation is utterly strange. I have a D-Lux Typ 109 - a 10 year old camera - and new batteries and replacement chargers are widely, and cheaply available. I realize that Panasonic likely sold far more LX100 class bodies in both Leica and their own badging, than Leica sold 240s, but still ...
boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
This was standard protocol with the older Nickel Cadmium batteries but I don't think this is recommended Nickle Metal Hydride or Lithium batteries. It would be best to check with the manufacturer or ask your local friendly AI.
See: Deep Cycle Battery vs Lithium-ion Battery: A Comprehensive Analysis-Ritar International Group Limited
Thanks for the link. I will follow its advice.
boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
Ouch. I'd get on B&H, Leica, and anyone else's backorder list I could. Supposedly they will come through, sooner or later.
This whole situation is utterly strange. I have a D-Lux Typ 109 - a 10 year old camera - and new batteries and replacement chargers are widely, and cheaply available. I realize that Panasonic likely sold far more LX100 class bodies in both Leica and their own badging, than Leica sold 240s, but still ...
You all know how I fee;l about this.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Leica USA has been consistently stating that the batteries are on the way. I have an email exchange from just a few weeks ago stating this, and other people have posted the same verbiage.I keep reading Leica BP-SCL2 battery is now discontinued.
I emailed Leica UK and the reply was 'product no longer available' so presumably the same answer from Leica in Germany.
MNS
Established
It's a little strange why we cannot get them. Maybe your consumer rights laws are a little better than ours your side of the pond.Leica USA has been consistently stating that the batteries are on the way. I have an email exchange from just a few weeks ago stating this, and other people have posted the same verbiage.
I've set up a few back orders including with B&H.
Freakscene
Obscure member
I have heard so many stories now that I believe none of them.It's a little strange why we cannot get them. Maybe your consumer rights laws are a little better than ours your side of the pond.
Lack of battery availability has been a consistent problem since Leica went digital.
Once a device is that old you have no customer rights anywhere in the developed world, sadly.
MNS
Established
UK's Consumer Rights Act 2015 does cover older goods no longer made but as I just found out this only covers repair or replacement for faulty goods.I have heard so many stories now that I believe none of them.
Lack of battery availability has been a consistent problem since Leica went digital.
Once a device is that old you have no customer rights anywhere in the developed world, sadly.
Think some further digging is required, particularly Consumer Rights under EU law.
MNS
Established
Marvellous! ...seems the EU Parliament are a little late to the party. 😠
So until then no end of electronic products will end up in waste electrical or landfill in the mean time.
The EU Battery Regulation mandates that portable batteries in electronic products must be easily removable and replaceable by the end-user. This requirement applies to products placed on the market from February 18, 2027.
So until then no end of electronic products will end up in waste electrical or landfill in the mean time.
mrtoml
Mancunian
Someone on Reddit posted a response from Leica about these batteries FWIW a few days ago.
MNS
Established
Maybe there's hope yet. 
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Here’s the reply I got from Leica USA on 5/1:
I’ve seen others post the same reply.Hello,
Thanks for reaching out about the battery for your M (Typ 240).
Due to high demand, this battery was previously available only through our parts department. However, with an increase in requests, it’s now being converted back to a standard five-digit SKU (14499) and will soon be available for regular purchase again.
Please note that we do not accept pre-orders or back-orders through the Leica Online Store. Instead, we recommend reaching out to one of our retail stores listed below to place a pre-order directly. Once the battery is in stock, the store will contact you to complete your purchase.(snipped)
Freakscene
Obscure member
Someone on Reddit posted a response from Leica about these batteries FWIW a few days ago.
Now that I can believe.
Steinberg2010
Well-known
I also received this response.
bcostin
Well-known
Almost all of my batteries across multiple digital systems are generics. Aside from the ones that come with the camera I very seldom buy brand-name ones. There's nothing particularly exotic about camera batteries these days, so I'm sure we'll see third-party options if Leica is really dumb enough to stop selling them.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Which?I also received this response.
Steinberg2010
Well-known
This one - I then reached out (twice) to ask about availability at my local Leica store and got no response...Here’s the reply I got from Leica USA on 5/1:
I’ve seen others post the same reply.
~S
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Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I phoned the Boston company store and the Miami franchise, Boston put me on a list and Miami actually did a preorder.This one - I then reached out (twice) to ask about availability at my local Leica store and got no response...
~S
peterm1
Veteran
I have a general observation / question regarding camera batteries and wonder if others have noticed the same thing..............................This seems as good a place as any to ask..............................
We all know that batteries will drain over time even if initially fully charged and the camera is unused. I have observed that with some cameras, if stored unused even with a with a fully charged battery, the battery will typically stay "fresh" for a prolonged period of time. While batteries in some other cameras seem to drain quite quickly when stored. (And yes, before you ask, the cameras are definitely turned off.) For example my impression is that a battery in my Sony A7s tends to drain quite rapidly in storage, while the battery in my Leica Q stays fresh for longer. Of course, it could be that I just have some spectacularly "sh#tty" after-market batteries for my Sony (though I have about 5-6 of them and this issue seems to apply to them all) but the Q possibly has better (though also after-market) batteries. Also my impression is that this is a more general thing than with just these two cameras.
The other possibility is that it relates to the age of specific batteries - which I am sure does occur - when batteries age they hold become less able to hold a charge but I am not sure if this is a complete explanation either, as my experience suggests that the issue applies to all of my several Sony batteries no matter their age and I also suspect that the draining is not so fast for the batteries that are stored in a pouch rather than actually in the camera.
Typically, of course these is also an internal system capacitor or battery or some such device to make sure camera settings are preserved even when the replaceable user battery is dead or missing - I suppose it is possible that these system batteries also draw power from the normal batteries even if the camera is off, when it becomes necessary should their voltage drop. If so, this might contribute to this phenomenon. But I am still of the view that some cameras are prone to draining battery charge in storage more rapidly than others.
Any ideas?
We all know that batteries will drain over time even if initially fully charged and the camera is unused. I have observed that with some cameras, if stored unused even with a with a fully charged battery, the battery will typically stay "fresh" for a prolonged period of time. While batteries in some other cameras seem to drain quite quickly when stored. (And yes, before you ask, the cameras are definitely turned off.) For example my impression is that a battery in my Sony A7s tends to drain quite rapidly in storage, while the battery in my Leica Q stays fresh for longer. Of course, it could be that I just have some spectacularly "sh#tty" after-market batteries for my Sony (though I have about 5-6 of them and this issue seems to apply to them all) but the Q possibly has better (though also after-market) batteries. Also my impression is that this is a more general thing than with just these two cameras.
The other possibility is that it relates to the age of specific batteries - which I am sure does occur - when batteries age they hold become less able to hold a charge but I am not sure if this is a complete explanation either, as my experience suggests that the issue applies to all of my several Sony batteries no matter their age and I also suspect that the draining is not so fast for the batteries that are stored in a pouch rather than actually in the camera.
Typically, of course these is also an internal system capacitor or battery or some such device to make sure camera settings are preserved even when the replaceable user battery is dead or missing - I suppose it is possible that these system batteries also draw power from the normal batteries even if the camera is off, when it becomes necessary should their voltage drop. If so, this might contribute to this phenomenon. But I am still of the view that some cameras are prone to draining battery charge in storage more rapidly than others.
Any ideas?
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