Leica M240 series battery scarcity

...even worse, I sold my late fathers M3 with it's Summicron 50mm DR, to get this M-P 240.

Hey ho, you never know, might keep going for a couple more years yet.
 
MNS said:
...even worse, I sold my late fathers M3 with it's Summicron 50mm DR, to get this M-P 240.

Hey ho, you never know, might keep going for a couple more years yet.
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Ouch. I'd get on B&H, Leica, and anyone else's backorder list I could. Supposedly they will come through, sooner or later.

This whole situation is utterly strange. I have a D-Lux Typ 109 - a 10 year old camera - and new batteries and replacement chargers are widely, and cheaply available. I realize that Panasonic likely sold far more LX100 class bodies in both Leica and their own badging, than Leica sold 240s, but still ...
 
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Ouch. I'd get on B&H, Leica, and anyone else's backorder list I could. Supposedly they will come through, sooner or later.

This whole situation is utterly strange. I have a D-Lux Typ 109 - a 10 year old camera - and new batteries and replacement chargers are widely, and cheaply available. I realize that Panasonic likely sold far more LX100 class bodies in both Leica and their own badging, than Leica sold 240s, but still ...
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You all know how I fee;l about this.
 
MNS said:
I keep reading Leica BP-SCL2 battery is now discontinued.

I emailed Leica UK and the reply was 'product no longer available' so presumably the same answer from Leica in Germany.
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Leica USA has been consistently stating that the batteries are on the way. I have an email exchange from just a few weeks ago stating this, and other people have posted the same verbiage.
 
Ken Ford said:
Leica USA has been consistently stating that the batteries are on the way. I have an email exchange from just a few weeks ago stating this, and other people have posted the same verbiage.
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It's a little strange why we cannot get them. Maybe your consumer rights laws are a little better than ours your side of the pond.

I've set up a few back orders including with B&H.
 
MNS said:
It's a little strange why we cannot get them. Maybe your consumer rights laws are a little better than ours your side of the pond.
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I have heard so many stories now that I believe none of them.

Lack of battery availability has been a consistent problem since Leica went digital.

Once a device is that old you have no customer rights anywhere in the developed world, sadly.
 
Freakscene said:
I have heard so many stories now that I believe none of them.

Lack of battery availability has been a consistent problem since Leica went digital.

Once a device is that old you have no customer rights anywhere in the developed world, sadly.
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UK's Consumer Rights Act 2015 does cover older goods no longer made but as I just found out this only covers repair or replacement for faulty goods.

Think some further digging is required, particularly Consumer Rights under EU law.
 
Marvellous! ...seems the EU Parliament are a little late to the party. 😠

The EU Battery Regulation mandates that portable batteries in electronic products must be easily removable and replaceable by the end-user. This requirement applies to products placed on the market from February 18, 2027.
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So until then no end of electronic products will end up in waste electrical or landfill in the mean time.
 
Here’s the reply I got from Leica USA on 5/1:

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out about the battery for your M (Typ 240).

Due to high demand, this battery was previously available only through our parts department. However, with an increase in requests, it’s now being converted back to a standard five-digit SKU (14499) and will soon be available for regular purchase again.

Please note that we do not accept pre-orders or back-orders through the Leica Online Store. Instead, we recommend reaching out to one of our retail stores listed below to place a pre-order directly. Once the battery is in stock, the store will contact you to complete your purchase.(snipped)
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I’ve seen others post the same reply.
 
Almost all of my batteries across multiple digital systems are generics. Aside from the ones that come with the camera I very seldom buy brand-name ones. There's nothing particularly exotic about camera batteries these days, so I'm sure we'll see third-party options if Leica is really dumb enough to stop selling them.
 
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I have a general observation / question regarding camera batteries and wonder if others have noticed the same thing..............................This seems as good a place as any to ask..............................

We all know that batteries will drain over time even if initially fully charged and the camera is unused. I have observed that with some cameras, if stored unused even with a with a fully charged battery, the battery will typically stay "fresh" for a prolonged period of time. While batteries in some other cameras seem to drain quite quickly when stored. (And yes, before you ask, the cameras are definitely turned off.) For example my impression is that a battery in my Sony A7s tends to drain quite rapidly in storage, while the battery in my Leica Q stays fresh for longer. Of course, it could be that I just have some spectacularly "sh#tty" after-market batteries for my Sony (though I have about 5-6 of them and this issue seems to apply to them all) but the Q possibly has better (though also after-market) batteries. Also my impression is that this is a more general thing than with just these two cameras.

The other possibility is that it relates to the age of specific batteries - which I am sure does occur - when batteries age they hold become less able to hold a charge but I am not sure if this is a complete explanation either, as my experience suggests that the issue applies to all of my several Sony batteries no matter their age and I also suspect that the draining is not so fast for the batteries that are stored in a pouch rather than actually in the camera.

Typically, of course these is also an internal system capacitor or battery or some such device to make sure camera settings are preserved even when the replaceable user battery is dead or missing - I suppose it is possible that these system batteries also draw power from the normal batteries even if the camera is off, when it becomes necessary should their voltage drop. If so, this might contribute to this phenomenon. But I am still of the view that some cameras are prone to draining battery charge in storage more rapidly than others.

Any ideas?
 
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