Ai silliness is taking over the internet

[valdas]

I’ll seek refuge in my darkroom. No 1 and 0 will enter that place.

 

[peterm1]

The issues with AI have little to nothing to do with the state of the art, but rather what it is intended to do, and who it is doing it for.
Cameras, automobiles, the internet, these all (even with their drawbacks) have practical uses which benefit most of the people in society. AI on the other hand, not so much. AI is particularly suited for turning valuable resources into bullsh!t. So if you like bullsh!t and you have billions to burn, it may be worth something to you. For the rest of us, it's worse than useless. In a couple decades we'll look back on AI the same way we now look at things like lead paint or asbestos.

In a completely unrelated tangent, has anybody been keeping tabs on the NFT market? I kept getting told what an absolute fool I was for not believing in the technology. How I was "not gonna make it" if I didn't jump on the bandwagon. This was the future for art and artists, for collectors and collectibles. I was told not investing in it would be like poo-pooing the lightbulb, the automobile, or the world wide web.

I took a look at the Foundation website a few days ago (Foundation, for those who don't know, is a NFT marketplace that courted hundreds of high profile artists -for example Aphex Twin- for the purpose of raising the profile of NFTs) and noticed that the CEO of the company only purchased one NFT last year. Many of the highest profile, or most valuable NFTs have never traded hands since their initial auctions, and many have been on offer, with no takers for years now. The CEO, by the way, has announced some new project that has nothing to do with NFTs. Fortunately, I do not have hundreds of thousands of dollars tied up in jpegs, unlike those who called me a luddite for not seeing the future.

I don't even know what NFT is.

 

[Mos6502]

I don't even know what NFT is.

That's fine, because most of the people promoting them apparently didn't know either.

 

[peterm1]

Yes. But you could make the same argument about the internet, computers, newspapers and on and on and on. Almost anything can and will be perverted by some. Take musical instruments as an example. What some people do with them is awful. But others, like Yo Yo Ma's Prelude to Suite 1 of Bach's Suite for Unaccompanied Cello remind us that the same tools can enchant and approach divine communication. Your point is well-taken and valid but, thankfully it is not the whole story.

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Yes but the point I am leading to is that in the case for example, of spam, the market and technology largely (eventually) took care of it. (Spam filters and the like) And if there is market failure then regulatory activity did. Sooner or later this will absolutely need to occur with AI as the downside of AI running rampant in terms of social costs that will ensue are potentially horrific. (Not just in me getting annoyed and pissed off by these tossers ramming rubbish down my throat.)

 

[Ko.Fe.]

World is already full of it.
News giants pushing some fake agendas for decades now.



My very smart senior colleague from China was watching thier fairytales.

But how it is different from Hollywood or else.
Ironman and such. How this idiotic series called with blue creatures, I can't even remember...

AI visualization is just next step. It gives freedom to create your own crap.
As usual something new doesn't go ideal ways.

 

[Leon C]

There is so much rubbish on my YouTube app

I'm on Android and never used the YT App, I use a mixture of NewPipe & Grayjay as YT alternatives and Nora for IG, no interference, no tracking, ads or datamining, Apple is more convoluted to stop the nonsense but doable with some research.

 

[Prest_400]

I can't quote where/who said it, but years ago heard of the expression "prune your algorithm(s)".
This was easier years ago, nowadays click once/twice in something on the platforms and then that topic will be pushed. YT is relatively fine for me as I have interests of travel, photography and rudimentary tech. But the unlogged non-user country suggestions of the home page.. Wow! In line with this and the "great" content creators.

Facebook is the most doomscroll nowadays and I have to warn relatives because they use it. Many engagement farm AI/Bot pages to say the least.

Stream services are ok to good at suggesting music to discover. However YT music did go from good to horrible for a while, and then the algorithm reverted.

Our niche forums, as discussed in another recent thread, appears relatively ok but people started to post LLM content and such. For our niche circles, it can easily hallucinate given the data sources. I have an acquaintance that I was amused as to how they could not figure out whether film went over/under/through the rollers of a Rolleicord. As I tend to say... Think critical and try to get to the first source of information (who needs a manufacturer manual, right?).

Do have friends and cohorts that just "chat this chat that" (chatGPT). Yes, it's a tool, and my most recent profession is within that space; but also started to become a cognitive crutch.

Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task – MIT Media Lab

This study explores the neural and behavioral consequences of LLM-assisted essay writing. Participants were divided into three groups: LLM, Search Engine, and …

www.media.mit.edu

Anyways, as a young millenial, I perhaps should be glad to be a sort of bridge generation. And have a bit of distance to the digital native space.

Photography wise it felt a bit ironic that film went to passé uncool to vintage authentic media in less than 2 decades. It is a hobby that is home for me.

 

[Axel]

AI is like the rest of the world. It depends on how and where you look at it.
I enjoy the complete gemini-statements from time to time.
Can I trust it?
Can I trust any infomation? I always have to prove and think.
Nothing new here ☕🙂📷

 

[boojum]

AI has value. Its value will increase with its sophistication. Basing an appraisal of AI on what is posted on YouTube is not entirely valid. It was a morass of dross before AI. AI has become an easy embellishment. That use does not define AI. Just as my music analogy, you can have either the Horst Wessel Leid or Bach. The former does not preclude or diminish the value and beauty of the latter.

Remember that in AI what we have is a snapshot not a movie. Let it play out. Autos were a pain the the butt, loud, cantankerous, fragile, noisy, frightened horses and limited in use. Now they are indispensable. AI can change and perhaps will.

I see it now as an annoyance in some cases not a general hair on fire event. As always, YMMV.

 

[p.giannakis]

I'm on Android and never used the YT App, I use a mixture of NewPipe & Grayjay as YT alternatives and Nora for IG, no interference, no tracking, ads or datamining, Apple is more convoluted to stop the nonsense but doable with some research.

First time I hear any of these. I'll have to Google them 👍

 

[raydm6]

It’s ubiquitous now.

I work in hi-tech and use many enterprise level apps with embedded AI at my current company - Atlassian Cloud (Confluence, Jira), Slack, any of the Microsoft Office 365 Products including Teams - which allows its embedded AI Facilitator agent to generate your meeting minutes (pretty wild actually), and others.

Because my field is specialized (Configuration Management), we also subscribe to a Cloud-Based PLM (Product Lifecycle Management) tool (Arena Cloud PLM) which also now includes its own native flavor of AI.

Like any technology, it has its strengths and weaknesses.

I have used it personally in the past to help me design and generate responsive HTML 5 and CSS code for my personal website (and to incorporate Shoelace web components), analyze any design problems and offer solutions, and to ask questions about other matters. It works pretty good in that regard. I always filter the answers and use common sense and don’t accept the results verbatim.

It’s a damn quick researcher and I’m learning to leverage its power and capabilities.

I’m not anathema to it, but do understand how it’s misuse can give it a bad name.

 

[Leon C]

First time I hear any of these. I'll have to Google them 👍

If you get stuck, let me know but they are easy to find. 😉

 

[Coldkennels]

This is absolute gold: @990000@mstdn.social (@990000@mstdn.social)



This basically sums up GenAI in one single post: tech bros spending way too much money to find really stupid, inefficient, and not helpful ways to do things that we already have easy, efficient, and helpful solutions for.

 

[p.giannakis]

This is absolute gold: @990000@mstdn.social (@990000@mstdn.social)

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This basically sums up GenAI in one single post: tech bros spending way too much money to find really stupid, inefficient, and not helpful ways to do things that we already have easy, efficient, and helpful solutions for.

Reminds me of my daughter on the way to the airport: "are we there yet?"
Every 5 mins...

 

[raydm6]

I’m all for a little AI humor as well:

 

[Alpsman]

I’m all for a little AI humor as well:

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The question needs to be phrased correctly.

Problem #1 isn't just on the internet.

 

[rogxwhit]

AI has more & deeper implications than the proliferation of crap on social media, none of which any of us has to look at! Economic, environmental and social. There will be benefits and risks, as always. But let's cut to the chase and not prattle about trivia. :-(

 

[fub]

First time I hear any of these. I'll have to Google them 👍

NewPipe is the better youtube app. You will like it. You can get it from F-Droid which is an alternative to the play store full of open source apps.

I’m all for a little AI humor as well:

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fun fact: fly agaric isn't really that poisonous and can be quiet healthy in small amounts. Just have to dry them for a while to get rid of that ibotenic acid. Ibotenic acid turns into Muscimol when letting it dry for a while (decarboxylation). After that bigger amounts will not kill you, they will just be very 'trippy'. You can eat about 10 fully grown Agarics before they become poisonous (before decarboxylation). Other mushrooms are much more dangerous.

back to topic: you can report AI content to youtube and the channels will lose their monetisation. Keep doing that it might help. I know a guy who had made a second channel where he just posted AI slop and they even took away the monetisation for all other channels he has, including a vlog channel with 10k+ subscribers. He is still in the process of getting his monetisation back. So they do actually do stuff about it.

 

[splitimageview]

It’s all about crafting the prompts.

GIGO still rules.

I’ve used it to write python and JavaScript code, it’s very very good, but again, it’s all in the prompts.

There are published guides on how to craft prompts, to help prevent useless or destructive replies.

 

[Mos6502]

The question needs to be phrased correctly.

Problem #1 isn't just on the internet.

I'm guessing the joke is referencing this.

You don't have to use AI to be endangered by it. The wonder of AI is how much power it grants people who love to cut corners, and for whom "it looks good enough to fool somebody" is the ultimate standard of quality.