New S3 2000 kit for $1800 ?

Shrug. Only if you have that much coin to spend on a camera. Me? It's going to be a long time before anything else has appropriate value...

William
 
dreamsandart said:
That said, I expect the new 35 to be 'as good as it gets' for Nikkor RF 35 glass. Maybe my ideal old style 'smooth look' with a bit higher 'modern' contrast and flare control.

Unfortunately all speculation on my part till I finally decide on a body.
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Here is a peek of what this lens can do. No hood was attached...look at the reflection of sun in the two cars. I say outstanding.
Kiu
 

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Very impressive 35 Kui, from what I can see on this internet photo looks like flare control is very very good. A good reason to think the SP with its 35 is the choice to make.

Just to clarify; from what Tom A. said basically is that there is a bigger difference between the old and new 50 than the 35s, but if Kui photo is any indication the 35 has gotten a big boost too - with sound lens design even in a 50s formula lens coatings may be the major upgrade in lenses in the last couple decades and the new 35 seems to show this ( and probably new glass types as I can't imagine that the same glass was available from 1950s too).

Thanks Jon for your input too, still not sure it makes the decision easier or not!, finder, 35, and MONEY being the major factors.
 
There was less to improve between the old 35 and the new 35. I use the old 35/1.8 every week, and it's just a fine lens.
 
Yes, the original 1.8/35 is one of the best classic lenses. Being basically the same as the new lens except for lens coatings it would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison. Since the only person I know with both, Tom... ?
 
I didn't realize Nikon produced 50+ cameras with seril # 88. They always seem to get pulled off ebay before the sale however........
One should be up next week if you miss it!
 
a serial number with 88 in it is a very lucky number to have.
just the fact that you can afford to own an SP is very lucky in its self.
so you will be doubley lucky with that Nikon SP.
 
jonmanjiro said:
I also ran a Millenium 50/1.4 up against my AIS 50/1.2.
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Do you have a AI or AIS 50/1.4 and have you compared a Millenium 50/1.4 against it? It would be interesting to see the results.
 
Millenium 50/1.4 vs AIS 50/1.2

Millenium 50/1.4 vs AIS 50/1.2

jsuominen said:
Do you have a AI or AIS 50/1.4 and have you compared a Millenium 50/1.4 against it? It would be interesting to see the results.
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I just picked up another Millenium 50/1.4 last night. I plan on keeping this one :) But I don't own an AI or AIS 50/1.4 to compare it with. If you're interested, I can post some Millenium 50/1.4 and AIS 50/1.2 comparison shots?

Jon
 
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jonmanjiro said:
I just picked up another Millenium 50/1.4 last night. I plan on keeping this one :) But I don't own an AI or AIS 50/1.4 to compare it with. If you're interested, I can post some Millenium 50/1.4 and AIS 50/1.2 comparison shots?

Jon
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Yes, I'm interested to see you shots. So thank you in advance for posting them here.

I don't have an AI or AIS 50/1.4 either. Just an AI 50/2 - and no Millennium 50/1.4. But when a decent AI or AIS 50/1.4 cost just about US$ 100 - 200, it's a very tempting option for F body. Or a new Cosina-made Zeiss ZF Planar 50/1.4. :)
 
Shooting into the sun - AIS 50/1.2 vs Millenium 50/1.4

Shooting into the sun - AIS 50/1.2 vs Millenium 50/1.4

jsuominen said:
Yes, I'm interested to see you shots. So thank you in advance for posting them here.

I don't have an AI or AIS 50/1.4 either. Just an AI 50/2 - and no Millennium 50/1.4. But when a decent AI or AIS 50/1.4 cost just about US$ 100 - 200, it's a very tempting option for F body. Or a new Cosina-made Zeiss ZF Planar 50/1.4. :)
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Hi jsuominen,

Attached are some photos that show how the AIS 50/1.2 and Millenium 50/1.4 behave when shooting into the sun. The first file is the full frame of the shot taken with the AIS 50/1.2 to show what I was photographing. The second file is a crop of that same photo, and the third file is a crop of the same area of the equivalent photo taken with the Millenium 50/1.4. Both photos were taken on a tripod at 1/30 sec and f4. I had hoods on both lenses but no filters. I post processed both files in exactly the same way. The film was Provia 100F.

Bjorn Rorslett says "The 50/1.2 is less troubled by high-contrast and against-the-light shooting than many of its brethren, and the propensity to flare is kept well under control" but we can see from the attached photos that the Millenium 50/1.4 is even better.

Just realised I can only post three photos at a time. Will try posting some more tomorrow.

Jon
 
Jon,
Interesting results.

You can attach three photos per post. But you could then start a new post and attach three more photos. The limit isn't based on a time limit; it just limits you to three pictures per post.
 
VinceC said:
Jon,
Interesting results.

You can attach three photos per post. But you could then start a new post and attach three more photos. The limit isn't based on a time limit; it just limits you to three pictures per post.
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Thanks Vince! It's late here and I'm a bit sleepy so didn't even think of that.

Here's two more shots that show the difference in colour rendition. Both shot at f8 and 1/125 sec on a tripod. Hoods attached but no filters. Film was Provia 100F.

You can see that the colours rendered by the Millenium 50/1.4 are slightly bluer overall than the colours rendered by the AIS 50/1.2 (you can also see that the focal length of the Millenium 50/1.4 is slightly longer than the AIS 50/1.2).

I think the colour difference may be due to the Millenium 50/1.4 being multicoated with the Nikon Integrated Coating (NIC) whereas the AIS 50/1.2 is multicoated with the more recent Nikon Super Integrated Coating (NSIC or SIC).

Nikon switched from NIC to NSIC in about 2000 to 2001. The Millenium 50/1.4 was manufactured before then so would be SIC multicoated, and I know my AIS 50/1.2 came off the production line about a year ago so is definitely NSIC multicoated.

No big deal. It's just a notable difference, and not even relevent if you don't shoot colour slide film. For the record, the 35/1.8 on my SP 2005 is NSIC coated and renders colours just like the AIS 50/1.2, only better :)

Jon
 
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My Millenneum Nikkor also has a fairly "cold" look to it that your test found. ... I usually keep a skylight filter on front of my lenses, so it's not a big deal.
 
MikeL said:
I didn't realize Nikon produced 50+ cameras with seril # 88. They always seem to get pulled off ebay before the sale however........
One should be up next week if you miss it!
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There is a long-running eBay scam on the SPs with serial number ending in 88. There are occasionally 2 or 3 on Ebay at once, using the exact same photo and text, under different seller IDs. eBay usually puts an end to the auction before it finishes.

I would not bid on any of these auctions
 
dexdog said:
There is a long-running eBay scam on the SPs with serial number ending in 88. There are occasionally 2 or 3 on Ebay at once, using the exact same photo and text, under different seller IDs. eBay usually puts an end to the auction before it finishes.

I would not bid on any of these auctions
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It seems that eboy pulls the ads out and a new ad appears for the" seril 88 " SP.
conmen always use the victim's greed to pull off their scam.
 
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