Nebulon
another variable
Please count me in!
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
Running total = 60
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
Running total = 60
sienarot
Well-known
Frank, Brett:
Out of curiosity, if there was a option to do a reprint of RFF1 in conjunction with RFF2, would that help keep costs down as well (or atleast make the print order worthwhile), particularly in the event we do not meet the 100 order target? Perhaps, a minimum of 75 of RFF1 and 75 RFF2? There's obviously a demand for both volumes.
Out of curiosity, if there was a option to do a reprint of RFF1 in conjunction with RFF2, would that help keep costs down as well (or atleast make the print order worthwhile), particularly in the event we do not meet the 100 order target? Perhaps, a minimum of 75 of RFF1 and 75 RFF2? There's obviously a demand for both volumes.
Steve Bellayr
Veteran
Having missed RFF book #1 by virtue of not being a member at the time could some enlighten me and others what this book is? A short post would be appreciated. Thank you.
FrankS
Registered User
Steve:
nearly 80% of the total RFF membership has joined since this project was completed and offered to the public.. here's the story behind the Rangefinder Book history
the original RFF book was published nearly 3 years ago, and featured the artistry of 25 of the original RFF members. The 112 page book showcases selected images from what was once a very small and tight-knit group that happened to be spread across the globe, yet shared a love of the 'rangefinder look'.
http://www.lulu.com/content/110604
A year later, the same group of people decided that a sequel was in order, and wanted to include more people, as there were countless new RFF members with obvious photographic talent. Of course, there was no way to include everyone in a printed piece, so the list was limited to the first 100 respondents to a public offering. The result of that offering became the RFF Book 2: A Gathering
http://www.lulu.com/content/257793
While the content of both books is clearly a winner, the online publisher we chose puts profits over customer satisfaction. The quality control is very hit and miss. Some people report great reproductions while others report very visible color casts, usually in the black and white images, that comprise the vast majority of images in the both books.
Unfortunately, that quality issue has limited our books sales to perhaps one tenth of what they would be if the quality were monitored properly.
What this thread is about, is having the second, 222 page book reprinted by a professional local printer who would print it at the best possible quality in the same manner.
As this would be a limited edition print, and given the current RFF membership of over 13,000 we should have no problem selling thousands of these. But understandably, people want to know what they're getting for their money. And I see that Lulu has taken down the book preview PDF for unknown reasons. Perhaps we can put up a preview here (altho I can't seem to get it down under 3MB.
__________________
Brett
nearly 80% of the total RFF membership has joined since this project was completed and offered to the public.. here's the story behind the Rangefinder Book history
the original RFF book was published nearly 3 years ago, and featured the artistry of 25 of the original RFF members. The 112 page book showcases selected images from what was once a very small and tight-knit group that happened to be spread across the globe, yet shared a love of the 'rangefinder look'.
http://www.lulu.com/content/110604
A year later, the same group of people decided that a sequel was in order, and wanted to include more people, as there were countless new RFF members with obvious photographic talent. Of course, there was no way to include everyone in a printed piece, so the list was limited to the first 100 respondents to a public offering. The result of that offering became the RFF Book 2: A Gathering
http://www.lulu.com/content/257793
While the content of both books is clearly a winner, the online publisher we chose puts profits over customer satisfaction. The quality control is very hit and miss. Some people report great reproductions while others report very visible color casts, usually in the black and white images, that comprise the vast majority of images in the both books.
Unfortunately, that quality issue has limited our books sales to perhaps one tenth of what they would be if the quality were monitored properly.
What this thread is about, is having the second, 222 page book reprinted by a professional local printer who would print it at the best possible quality in the same manner.
As this would be a limited edition print, and given the current RFF membership of over 13,000 we should have no problem selling thousands of these. But understandably, people want to know what they're getting for their money. And I see that Lulu has taken down the book preview PDF for unknown reasons. Perhaps we can put up a preview here (altho I can't seem to get it down under 3MB.
__________________
Brett
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
While we've tried "lulu".... and realized just how horrid their B&W images print out like.. maybe we should try another publisher.
I'm going to see if I can locate one - there's a million of them online but I've seen one that was done by a photographer here in the t-dot and it looked VERY professional and was REASONABLY priced too - like hard cover for $50 / book.
Dave
I'm going to see if I can locate one - there's a million of them online but I've seen one that was done by a photographer here in the t-dot and it looked VERY professional and was REASONABLY priced too - like hard cover for $50 / book.
Dave
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
ahhhh...
http://www.blurb.com and http://www.mypublisher.com is what we should try.
Does anyone have the files from RFF #2? I'm willing to give this a shot if someone will provide me with the files.
Thanks,
Dave
http://www.blurb.com and http://www.mypublisher.com is what we should try.
Does anyone have the files from RFF #2? I'm willing to give this a shot if someone will provide me with the files.
Thanks,
Dave
FrankS
Registered User
Dave, talk to Brett (JoeFriday). He is also making inquiries.
mrtoml
Mancunian
dcsang said:ahhhh...
http://www.blurb.com and http://www.mypublisher.com is what we should try.
Does anyone have the files from RFF #2? I'm willing to give this a shot if someone will provide me with the files.
Thanks,
Dave
I just got a book of my monochrome images done by mypublisher.com and they all have a strong blue/green cast. This despite setting them all to monochrome in their publishing software. So beware. It wasn't that cheap either.
Mark
FrankS
Registered User
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Running total = 61
I think Daniel accidently cut off RML and Nebulon. The running total was going the wrong way.
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Running total = 61
I think Daniel accidently cut off RML and Nebulon. The running total was going the wrong way.
dostacos
Dan
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Running total = 63
re-calculated [added dlridings to the 60 and added a second for me]
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Running total = 63
re-calculated [added dlridings to the 60 and added a second for me]
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Like I said.. add me to it - I'd really like to try Blurb - I've seen the images from them and they're very good.
Dave
Dave
FrankS
Registered User
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Dave (dcsang)
Running total = 64
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Dave (dcsang)
Running total = 64
FrankS
Registered User
We will definitely avoid UPS.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Email has been sent to Blurb to inquire re: UPS -
Dave
Dave
R
RML
Guest
PLEASE! Use USPS for my copy to Holland!
I can't stand UPS, DHL or any other courier service! Too expensive to begin with, and the time gained is mostly lost in depot or waiting Customs clearance (for which they charge you a hefty fee as well) or because they don't deliver on Saturday or deliver it when I'm not home (and changing the delivery address takes 2 days extra, one to make the chance and the other to get things delivered if they don't foul up!).
I can't stand UPS, DHL or any other courier service! Too expensive to begin with, and the time gained is mostly lost in depot or waiting Customs clearance (for which they charge you a hefty fee as well) or because they don't deliver on Saturday or deliver it when I'm not home (and changing the delivery address takes 2 days extra, one to make the chance and the other to get things delivered if they don't foul up!).
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Remy,
I'll wait to hear back from Blurb - in the meantime, I'm going to try something with MyPublisher - even though there's been claims of green cast on the images - I think, if we get this done right, the Canucks or US folks can trans ship the overseas books - that is, instead of getting them to send directly to you, they can be sent to one of us here who can then ship via the postal service to those overseas.
Cheers
Dave
I'll wait to hear back from Blurb - in the meantime, I'm going to try something with MyPublisher - even though there's been claims of green cast on the images - I think, if we get this done right, the Canucks or US folks can trans ship the overseas books - that is, instead of getting them to send directly to you, they can be sent to one of us here who can then ship via the postal service to those overseas.
Cheers
Dave
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
FrankS said:Dave, talk to Brett (JoeFriday). He is also making inquiries.
Yeah, Brett's talking a local printer with a printing press, right? I assume that would be a 4-color press, since there are color images in the book. That's the ideal. I'm not sure I would be up for another "Lulu" experience.
BTW, are we stuck on 64?
skibeerr
Well-known
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Dave (dcsang)
skibeerr
total 65
usps has always worked fine for me.
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Dave (dcsang)
skibeerr
total 65
usps has always worked fine for me.
T_om
Well-known
dcsang said:Remy,
I'll wait to hear back from Blurb - in the meantime, I'm going to try something with MyPublisher - even though there's been claims of green cast on the images - I think, if we get this done right, the Canucks or US folks can trans ship the overseas books - that is, instead of getting them to send directly to you, they can be sent to one of us here who can then ship via the postal service to those overseas.
Cheers
Dave
Dave,
I tried a Blurb book for an engagement album for my clients. I was NOT impressed with the quality at all.
I will say the printing was better than my RFF Book #2 (which was pathetic, so that is not saying much), but it is not even close to, say, a Sharedink book in quality.
If I remember correctly, I was either the first or one of the first to receive the RFF #2 book and was the original posted on the quality issues. My copy is purple. That is not a mis-print. The B&W's are "Purple & White".
I would be very happy to get another copy by a quality printer.
Tom
Heidi
Newbie
FrankS (2 copies)
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Dave (dcsang)
skibeerr
Heidi
total 66
rbiemer (2 copies)
Raid
ErikFive
Lynn
Rover
RayPA (2 copies)
JimG
Jamesj
Uwe_Nds (2 copies)
iml
dostacos (2 copies)
darkkavenger (2 copies)
slipkid
mfogiel
photogdave
Joerg
Tony J/Leica M2 fan
sienarot
sepiareverb
Todd (Toddhanz)
vrgard
Tarzak
Jmilkins
alan davus
peter_n
Boilerdoc2
dmr
GeneW
ManGo
Pedro.M.Reis
Gabriel MA (2 copies)
Beniliam (2 copies)
CARLO CRUZ
Nando (no problem Fernando) (2 copies)
Terje
Michael I.
Cmogi10
Andrew Sowerby
Pherdinand (2 copies)
Impact07 (2 copies)
Bobbo
DrLeoB
Lou I
Socke
lff (Barry)
Germanb
Shaaktiman
RML
Nebulon
dlridings (Daniel Ridings)
Dave (dcsang)
skibeerr
Heidi
total 66
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