noimmunity
scratch my niche
Yes, very interesting. I've re-posted along my networks. Thanks.
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
went to gazi (not gezi) last night, where things look very different (not nice at all), but had to pull out after just a few minutes, because the girl that was with me for translation and orientation had a bit of a nervous breakdown when faced with the situation there.
a protester is banging a rock on a garbage container in the secluded area of gazi (where a man almost died from a direct gas grenade hit to the head the day before) to show that he is not retreating.
the situation here is very different from the one in beyoglu. the protesters are cut-off from what is happening elsewhere in istanbul, there are many akp supporters and there is no clear front line against the police. hardly anybody outside this part of town knows about what is going on, press coverage was almost non-existant, and i haven't seen a single medical helper. on the other hand, the protesting seems less sophisticated, more destructive and more aggressive.
a protester is banging a rock on a garbage container in the secluded area of gazi (where a man almost died from a direct gas grenade hit to the head the day before) to show that he is not retreating.
the situation here is very different from the one in beyoglu. the protesters are cut-off from what is happening elsewhere in istanbul, there are many akp supporters and there is no clear front line against the police. hardly anybody outside this part of town knows about what is going on, press coverage was almost non-existant, and i haven't seen a single medical helper. on the other hand, the protesting seems less sophisticated, more destructive and more aggressive.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Hi Simon and other reporters,
any news from Turkey? Any more pictures to show? Dutch media report that the fans of different soccer clubs have teamed up to protest the government, a big thing in Istanbul and all of Turkey, right?
any news from Turkey? Any more pictures to show? Dutch media report that the fans of different soccer clubs have teamed up to protest the government, a big thing in Istanbul and all of Turkey, right?
Sparrow
Veteran
... there was an interesting report in the BBC's From Our Own Corespondent podcast if you have access too it over there
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
That is an interesting podcast channel altogether! Subscribed to it, thanks! I'll be listening to the Turkey episode later today.
taskoni
Well-known
Simon!
You are picturing a history here and sooner or later it will be much appreciated!
Take care of your self, you doing just great!
Regards,
Boris
You are picturing a history here and sooner or later it will be much appreciated!
Take care of your self, you doing just great!
Regards,
Boris
raid
Dad Photographer
The street revolt may not remove the PM from power, but maybe he will start to listen to what people want from his government.
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
there is a lot of regular updates and information here: http://rt.com/news/istanbul-park-protests-police-095/ (a lot of what the akp and especially the PM did and said is nothing short of full-on fascism. other things are things are hilarious beyond compare.)
the football fans united and fought together from very early on.
people are less and less and less intimidated by police tactics and brutality. they also know that the police are tired and frustrated.
see this video (celebrating tear gas attacks).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=528874363840695
i will try to post more pictures soon.
the football fans united and fought together from very early on.
people are less and less and less intimidated by police tactics and brutality. they also know that the police are tired and frustrated.
see this video (celebrating tear gas attacks).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=528874363840695
i will try to post more pictures soon.
raid
Dad Photographer
Watch your back, Simon. I hope that such information will create positive changes. This video is powerful indeed.
Most people in Iraq did not speak out against Saddam Hussein, and see what has happened to Iraq.
Most people in Iraq did not speak out against Saddam Hussein, and see what has happened to Iraq.
raid
Dad Photographer
smbilgin
Established
Hello everybody,
Status update:
Yesterday evening there were again thousands of people demonstrated on Kızılay / Ankara and same thing happened. Police attacked with water cannons and tear gas.
Simon reported Gazi (not Gezi Parkı) situation. Let me explain the situation in Gazi. The people who live in Gazi district are rather poor and usually excluded by the governments (mostly Kurdish and Alevi people). Therefore they are much more tough and fighter. Also in 1995 there was a huge riot in that district and the former government responded with fire. Tens of people had been killed. We call that event Gazi Massacre. So I expected nothing less from Gazi people. They have been suffering for a very long time.
But the things are very different in Taksim. There are tens of barricades on every streets which leads to the square. No police. İstiklal Caddesi became normal life, yet demonstrations are everywhere. Yesterday there were two meetings on İstiklal Caddesi. First one was the Feminist Meeting. And the second one was TMMOB (UNION OF CHAMBERS OF TURKISH ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS) ) meeting. I attended that meeting with my colleagues.
Gezi Park is another story now. Looks like almost after revolution situation. People live in tents. Food is free for everyone. People are singing, dancing, drinking. A must see place. However, I felt from people some kind of "victory mood" which I did not like personally. Because we didn't win anything yet. PM speaks the same thing all the time. The police just allows the people "live" in the park, that's all. So I think this is a dangerous situation for the protestors. They are relaxing. On the other hand, there are several rumours that police is going to attack on Monday to the park again. We'll see.
Today there is a big meeting on Taksim Square and 1 million people are expected.
In parallel, the PM is going to Ankara from Adana and he will be landing within a few minutes. His followers are organising a welcome meeting to him.
Anyway; I communicated Taylan yesterday. As I understand, every RFF members who are actively on the ground are OK.
Thank you all for your great support.
Status update:
Yesterday evening there were again thousands of people demonstrated on Kızılay / Ankara and same thing happened. Police attacked with water cannons and tear gas.
Simon reported Gazi (not Gezi Parkı) situation. Let me explain the situation in Gazi. The people who live in Gazi district are rather poor and usually excluded by the governments (mostly Kurdish and Alevi people). Therefore they are much more tough and fighter. Also in 1995 there was a huge riot in that district and the former government responded with fire. Tens of people had been killed. We call that event Gazi Massacre. So I expected nothing less from Gazi people. They have been suffering for a very long time.
But the things are very different in Taksim. There are tens of barricades on every streets which leads to the square. No police. İstiklal Caddesi became normal life, yet demonstrations are everywhere. Yesterday there were two meetings on İstiklal Caddesi. First one was the Feminist Meeting. And the second one was TMMOB (UNION OF CHAMBERS OF TURKISH ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS) ) meeting. I attended that meeting with my colleagues.
Gezi Park is another story now. Looks like almost after revolution situation. People live in tents. Food is free for everyone. People are singing, dancing, drinking. A must see place. However, I felt from people some kind of "victory mood" which I did not like personally. Because we didn't win anything yet. PM speaks the same thing all the time. The police just allows the people "live" in the park, that's all. So I think this is a dangerous situation for the protestors. They are relaxing. On the other hand, there are several rumours that police is going to attack on Monday to the park again. We'll see.
Today there is a big meeting on Taksim Square and 1 million people are expected.
In parallel, the PM is going to Ankara from Adana and he will be landing within a few minutes. His followers are organising a welcome meeting to him.
Anyway; I communicated Taylan yesterday. As I understand, every RFF members who are actively on the ground are OK.
Thank you all for your great support.
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
yes, people's support should primarily focus on places like ankara and gazi now, taksim has been stable for days with very little police confrontation.
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
here are five more pictures from friday (may 31) through tuesday/wednesday (june 04/05).
a woman tries to get away from the teargas on the first night of big clashes on istiklal caddesi. may 31 2013.
a man holds a 40mm teargas shell just after protesters managed to seize taksim square from police forces. june 01 2013.
policemen while being confronted about their behaviour by a young woman, just before the outbreak of huge clashes in beşiktaş that would rage on through the night and all the way up to inönü stadium. note that riot control forces are equipped with actual firearms, which i consider highly inappropriate. june 02 2013.
protesters celebrate on their barricades in gümüşsuyu after a wave of tear gas fired by the police. june 03 2013.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=528874363840695
a protester shoots fireworks in gümüşsuyu to intimidate police further down the road. june 04 / 05 2013.
a woman tries to get away from the teargas on the first night of big clashes on istiklal caddesi. may 31 2013.
a man holds a 40mm teargas shell just after protesters managed to seize taksim square from police forces. june 01 2013.
policemen while being confronted about their behaviour by a young woman, just before the outbreak of huge clashes in beşiktaş that would rage on through the night and all the way up to inönü stadium. note that riot control forces are equipped with actual firearms, which i consider highly inappropriate. june 02 2013.
protesters celebrate on their barricades in gümüşsuyu after a wave of tear gas fired by the police. june 03 2013.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=528874363840695
a protester shoots fireworks in gümüşsuyu to intimidate police further down the road. june 04 / 05 2013.
raid
Dad Photographer
As long as no other country plays a role in such a protest uprise, there is a good chance for a positive outcome. Is there a fallout between the PM and the President?
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
proving my point about firearms for riot control police forces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l5psGJDU2xQ
S
Stelios
Guest
F@£$%^& *ell !!
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
i bet you that ****er will never be brought to justice. this country is one step away from the abyss.
S
Stelios
Guest
It's happened before. Remember Genoa? Sadly.
At first I thought he was firing in the air!
At first I thought he was firing in the air!
S
Stelios
Guest
This is more disturbing than all of the images I've seen so far.
smbilgin
Established
Yesterday the PM and his followers organised some meetings. And he talked to the people. He said as a summary:
"These are just bunch of drunk marauders!"
"They got into a mosque and drank all night!" (people took a mosque as shelter a few days ago while they were running from the police and converted the mosque into a infirmary)
"They attacked my scarfed sisters!" (That's another lie. Many scarfed women also resist)
"These demonstrations are lead by foreign powers!" (Yeah yeah.. Because we are all stupids...)
"We will respond them with the language they understand" (That would be nice. Because the language we understand is love and peace. Come join us PM)
"In my time (10 years) we planted 2.8 billion (yes billion) trees" (Just do the math
)
"These are enemy of the public!" (Pardon? Who?)
"They killed a cop!" (One cop died because he fell down to a hole which was kept open by local municipal while he was chasing the protestors. Nobody killed him)
Unbeliavable...
He deliberately provokes the people against each other. His followers' slogan is "Allow us, we will crush Taksim!"
They also started to attack the protestors in small towns and neighborhoods with knives and iron sticks.
"These are just bunch of drunk marauders!"
"They got into a mosque and drank all night!" (people took a mosque as shelter a few days ago while they were running from the police and converted the mosque into a infirmary)
"They attacked my scarfed sisters!" (That's another lie. Many scarfed women also resist)
"These demonstrations are lead by foreign powers!" (Yeah yeah.. Because we are all stupids...)
"We will respond them with the language they understand" (That would be nice. Because the language we understand is love and peace. Come join us PM)
"In my time (10 years) we planted 2.8 billion (yes billion) trees" (Just do the math
)"These are enemy of the public!" (Pardon? Who?)
"They killed a cop!" (One cop died because he fell down to a hole which was kept open by local municipal while he was chasing the protestors. Nobody killed him)
Unbeliavable...
He deliberately provokes the people against each other. His followers' slogan is "Allow us, we will crush Taksim!"
They also started to attack the protestors in small towns and neighborhoods with knives and iron sticks.