1930's film carton?

David, I do recall seeing IFF through the 60's, and recall the ASA 10. I used a few rolls, have one left, and I do recall the 120 Agfa and 35mm film cans had what looked like hospital adhesive tape to seal up the cans.

I never saw the ones with the instructions inside of the can though, am not sure how long IFF was in production, but the general feeling was that it was the finest grain film available.

As I recall, the Rodinal then required a needle and syringe to get it out of the bottle, you would probably have a time explaining that today. ;-)

I have a friend who says he has some old films for me, and am sure they will appear sooner or later, the price will be right, free, so am not exactly pushing him.

Most of the dealers I know are not paying much attention, but the prices on ebay may soon change that. A local dealer was tossing out old films that arrived with trades and I know he is now putting it up on line-- and has some pleasant surprises.

Regards, John
 
Many thanks, that's another part of the jig-saw puzzle found. I'm beginning to think this is early as I can't see any point in the list of cameras for it after the 30's but have no way of guessing when it would start to be called just plain 35mm film and not "for Leica etc, etc...". The Leica and Rolleikin would be novelties in the 30's and so they'd want to mention them. But - of course - the Rolleikin 2 was very early 50's... It's all good fun.

I'll look forward to some pictures of the old films when you get them.

Regards, David
 
David Hughes said:
Many thanks, that's another part of the jig-saw puzzle found. I'm beginning to think this is early as I can't see any point in the list of cameras for it after the 30's but have no way of guessing when it would start to be called just plain 35mm film and not "for Leica etc, etc...". The Leica and Rolleikin would be novelties in the 30's and so they'd want to mention them. But - of course - the Rolleikin 2 was very early 50's... It's all good fun.

I'll look forward to some pictures of the old films when you get them.

Regards, David
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I was thinking it was a bit early for the Rolleikin, I recall when I was using my first Rollei hearing about it, and seem to recall some models had the counter for it, -- it seemed a long way to go to use smaller film, but 35mm in my youth was still "miniature" format.

The Czech's were making adapters for their Flexarets then, and I have a couple, but again, a long way to go to use 35mm film, I suppose it gave you slides, but my Czech friends told me in those days, slides came back unmounted, and you got out your scissors and mounts to spend a lovely evening with your hobby. ;-)

What did you think of the Kodak paper can? Seeing that some very early Kodachrome was posted with what looks like a plain aluminum can, I wonder where that fits in the time line?

Also, when I was shooting 35mm in my teens, the cans were steel, and painted in a variety of colors depending on the film. Later they went to all unpainted Aluminum cans?

I seem to recall Tri X cans were green of course, and Kodachrome the orange and yellow.

The tape on the Agfa Cans did not last very long, I recall it falling apart even back in the day.

Of course we saved everything, probably being children of the people who lived through the depression, and I was reloading using various cartridges before they gradually all became rather difficult if not impossible to open and re-close. I think Agfa required you to cut the label, and depress a bump on the side of the cartridge.

Foma was one of the last to end the use of the snap on cartridges-- I think I have enough lying about, and I can always learn to use the Leica cartridges, if I watch Tom A's you tube video enough times.

Regards, John
 
I've finally found the instructions for my old Rollei (printed from a scan - alas) and they are dated April 1936 and mention the Rolleikin, or rather, the cinefilm attachment.

Trouble is, trivia, like when the cans changed and how they changed doesn't get mentioned and I can't see any way of getting at things, apart from finding all the bound copies of the photographic magazines from the 1920's onwards and reading slowly through them. Worse still, I had a good clear-out years ago and can recall some of the stuff I threw out. Mostly Ilford and Agfa as I was mostly into B&W prints and then slides. Agfa did a nice B&W slide film and you could get a processing kit for slides for Ilford's B&W films. Once I got into colour slides it was all downhill.

BTW, there's a nice old fashioned (probably) FED reloadable cassette about but the sort with a snap on lid each end. I have a few somewhere but mostly well hidden. It might be worthwhile you asking around. Not that I've seen any 50ft cans of film lately and I don't think I want to get back into dark room at my age.

I know what you mean about the depression, only I call it a habit from war time (and beyond) rationing. It's years after the war but I still open bags that food came in both end to get the last grain of sugar etc out. The way things are going the habit may come back into fashion again...

Regards, David
 
I got one of those possibly FED cassettes when I received my Zorki I 2 months ago.
There was an Ukrainian brand bulk-loaded film inside.

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David Hughes said:
I've finally found the instructions for my old Rollei (printed from a scan - alas) and they are dated April 1936 and mention the Rolleikin, or rather, the cinefilm attachment.

Trouble is, trivia, like when the cans changed and how they changed doesn't get mentioned and I can't see any way of getting at things, apart from finding all the bound copies of the photographic magazines from the 1920's onwards and reading slowly through them. Worse still, I had a good clear-out years ago and can recall some of the stuff I threw out. Mostly Ilford and Agfa as I was mostly into B&W prints and then slides. Agfa did a nice B&W slide film and you could get a processing kit for slides for Ilford's B&W films. Once I got into colour slides it was all downhill.

BTW, there's a nice old fashioned (probably) FED reloadable cassette about but the sort with a snap on lid each end. I have a few somewhere but mostly well hidden. It might be worthwhile you asking around. Not that I've seen any 50ft cans of film lately and I don't think I want to get back into dark room at my age.

I know what you mean about the depression, only I call it a habit from war time (and beyond) rationing. It's years after the war but I still open bags that food came in both end to get the last grain of sugar etc out. The way things are going the habit may come back into fashion again...

Regards, David
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I am pretty much buried in stuff, am finding prints going back 30+ years, and tossed out my Agfa prepaid processing mailers yesterday.

I think the most decent recently re-loadable cartridges were probably the Foma.

Bulk film is commonly available, and I probably have 500 or more feet lying about, but too many irons in the fire, and not enough heat perhaps in the furnace? Have some unusual ones, Ortho, surplus, T200 Foma, + TMax, XP2, --

Was the Agfa film Scala, or something close to that?

I shot several rolls of the Foma R, very nice tonality, I have a couple of shots scanned from this one in the Gallery -- I think most of these films used a similar chemistry. I do not recall many films recently shot in B&W and even on film. I saw the other night that Ken Burns still uses film for his well know series.

Annual camera show coming up end of August-- I think Igor will attend to the details, show can be interesting as it is a club show.

John
 
Mr_Flibble said:
I got one of those possibly FED cassettes when I received my Zorki I 2 months ago.
There was an Ukrainian brand bulk-loaded film inside.

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Neobrom in Brno used to repackage some Ukrainian film-- I think they had more plans, but then the manager got enough for a Mercedes and the place shut down.

They a huge variety of sensitized materials, silver iodide contact paper, photo linen, -- I think they could have managed a niche in the world, but not to happen.

J
 
This hit me hard, after the event. Try item 270604071607 on ebay...

It shows the coloured can with the film and I wonder if they are right together?

Regards, David
 
After re-reading this thread I remembered that I had a camera bag stashed away that came with my Kodak 35 a few years ago. The bag was stuffed with all kinds of film sheets with print-codes ranging from 1941 to 1958, Some cardboard exposure computers and film-return envelops.



Is there anything interesting enough in there to scan for you guys, let me know.
 
Talking of that, I've a box filled with old films found in cameras and one of them has a very nice reloadable cassette. It came with a FED 1f and is nice because one end unscrews. The Cyrillic letters for "E" then a "y" upside down(?) and then "M" are on it.

Regards, David
 
Old Stuff

Old Stuff

Am trying to organize a bit, just tossed some Agfa Film processing mailers, which Agfa stopped honoring long ago, and have some Fuji mailers on the edge of the trash, don't think I will live long enough for them to be of value to anyone. ;-)

Also trying to find room for Carousel trays, I think two of my three projectors are in my university office somewhere.

More stuff to the garage and attic today.

J
 
Just 'won' some 1940s photography magazines, I'll scan any interesting film adds I might come across when I receive them.
 
Igor just told me he picked up some vintage magazines, will have to take a look, I think he would give you a great price if you asked him.

Show is Sunday.

John
 
Well, I'm still looking for some 1946 expired "normal" Kodachrome, I have an "A" box, already and I'm also looking for any 1944 to 1946 dated Agfa *German Language* products to complete my online virtual museum, that will be part of my planned Leica collectables website :)

Tom
 
I just won this on evilbay.....

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1945 expired 120 Agfa Isopan........this is going to be a "static" display box to go with my 1939 Rolleiflex 1a :)

Enjoy!

Tom
 
A while ago I shot Isopan that expired in 1974. Loaded it in a 6x9 box camera.

Negatives came back shockingly good. Not even a base fog, or maybe a very even one :eek:

But, you should keep that box like it is. Nice find!
 
I think a lot of people are going to be looking carefully at "outdated" film supplies in the coming years.
Igor has been very busy and not dug up any old film cartons, will see if I can get him to remind the local club members to check the drawers.
Last estate sale was a bit odd, well to me, they gave out numbers to the folks waiting outside and let only 20 at a time in, so a lot of good stuff walked by us as we waited, and I got the feeling that though lots of old cameras were in the house, since there was only one roll of film (in a Zeiss Ikon camera) that all that "junk" was tossed before the sale.

Pavel in Brno just mainly gave old film packs away, when he was not testing registration in old cameras with it. He has he biggest store there and there were a lot of small stores on several streets-- just in case you are looking for a "road trip". ;-)
Regards, John
 
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