LCT
ex-newbie
How's vignetting with the CV 28/3.5?
bennyng
Benny Ng
I like the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH on the Epson R-D1. The overall handing is good and the pictures ain't too bad either. Here's a few of them..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ngminchai/sets/72157616316375459/
Cheers,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ngminchai/sets/72157616316375459/
Cheers,
kermaier
Well-known
How's vignetting with the CV 28/3.5?
Not bad, in my experience. There's a bit there, but I don't mind it. It's very easily corrected using the focal length controls in Epson PhotoRaw if you want to.
::Ari
LCT
ex-newbie
Just had a look on Sean Reid's vignetting test of the CV 28/3.5 here:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/rd-1-lens.shtml
Sounds very close to the CV 21/4 as far as light fall off apparently.
I own the M version of the latter and there is too much noise in the corners with the Epson raw converter for my tastes.
Got less problems with Capture One plus P'shop or Silkypix for vignetting correction.
FWIW
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/rd-1-lens.shtml
Sounds very close to the CV 21/4 as far as light fall off apparently.
I own the M version of the latter and there is too much noise in the corners with the Epson raw converter for my tastes.
Got less problems with Capture One plus P'shop or Silkypix for vignetting correction.
FWIW
Ronchnam
Established
Hi I have a Minolta M Rokkor 2.8 28 Great lens But the field is more 35 than 40 or 43 Just fit my VC 35 mm external viewfinder that I use wearing glasses.
LCT
ex-newbie
Your VF is the culprit i guess. Most if not all external viewfinders have a wider FoV to stay more or less accurate at short distance. Same with frame lines of rangefinder cameras BTW.
peppermill
Established
I would have to recommend the Ricoh 28mm f2.8 on the R-D1. It has a different look to the M-hexanon I had but it's definatly worth looking into. This lens is also tiny compared to most 28mm's and has a great retro look 
bennyng
Benny Ng
Even though it's off topic, here's something even smaller.
Nikkor 28mm f/3.5 (converted to M from AF600) on Voigtlander R4A.
It protrudes about 1 cm from the flange.
Of course the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH is quite a good modern lens and it's great on the R-D1.
Cheers,

Nikkor 28mm f/3.5 (converted to M from AF600) on Voigtlander R4A.
It protrudes about 1 cm from the flange.
Of course the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH is quite a good modern lens and it's great on the R-D1.
Cheers,
ampguy
Veteran
smallest?
smallest?
Are these smaller than the Canon 28/2.8 ltm?
I think you might like the new Elmarit ASPH 28 if you are shooting color, and want good contrast out of the camera (jpgs).
The CV 3.5 vignetted more than my Canon. the 28/1.9 is good, but vary from sample to sample. The Zeiss is OK, but more CA than the 25mm or a Leitz lens. The old Elmarit V4 or M-Hexnanon, though largish compared to the Elmarit ASPH, are very nice lenses for the 28/2.8 range, imho.
smallest?
Are these smaller than the Canon 28/2.8 ltm?
I think you might like the new Elmarit ASPH 28 if you are shooting color, and want good contrast out of the camera (jpgs).
The CV 3.5 vignetted more than my Canon. the 28/1.9 is good, but vary from sample to sample. The Zeiss is OK, but more CA than the 25mm or a Leitz lens. The old Elmarit V4 or M-Hexnanon, though largish compared to the Elmarit ASPH, are very nice lenses for the 28/2.8 range, imho.
Thanks everyone for fast input.
I have surveyed all available 28mm and have concluded the Elmarit the smallest, followed by an older LTM CV 28mm/f3.5...often used to illustrate the RD-1. The new CV 28mm f2 is definitely much bigger.
Elsewhere illustrated in Reid Report, lens vignetting in various 28mm lens is observable wide open, but can be processed away. Unfortunately that report did not include the Elmarit nor the Zeiss.
My ZM is a one lens outfit with the CV 40mm/f1.4 (modifed to bring up the 35mm frame line with 95%+ tight framing). I have since grown to like the 40mm look.
kermaier
Well-known
Are these smaller than the Canon 28/2.8 ltm?
The Canon 28/3.5 is probably the smallest readily obtainable lens -- even smaller than the Canon 28/2.8. I don't think my Canon 28/3.5 vignettes at all noticeably on the R-D1, and it's really quite sharp for a vintage lens.
::Ari
ampguy
Veteran
bit slow
bit slow
The problem with 3.5 is it's just too slow for me. These were all taken with the 2.8 at 2.8 most all the time, unless the light was so bright, that lowest ISO and fastest shutter made me slow the lens down.
bit slow
The problem with 3.5 is it's just too slow for me. These were all taken with the 2.8 at 2.8 most all the time, unless the light was so bright, that lowest ISO and fastest shutter made me slow the lens down.
The Canon 28/3.5 is probably the smallest readily obtainable lens -- even smaller than the Canon 28/2.8. I don't think my Canon 28/3.5 vignettes at all noticeably on the R-D1, and it's really quite sharp for a vintage lens.
::Ari
back alley
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the zeiss 28 is only ok?
reality check please...
reality check please...
ampguy
Veteran
Yes Joe
Yes Joe
The Zeiss 28/2.8 is an only OK lens to me. There are better ones, and I've mentioned them above.
Yes Joe
The Zeiss 28/2.8 is an only OK lens to me. There are better ones, and I've mentioned them above.
the zeiss 28 is only ok?
reality check please...
Krosya
Konicaze
the zeiss 28 is only ok?
reality check please...
I'd have to agree, based on what I have seen. Out of all the ZM lineup - thier 28/2.8 is the weakest - there was a lot of discussion on it here before, with examples. Check some earlier 28mm lens threads. Many other lenses seem to outperform Zeiss 28mm 2.8 one. But if you like yours - great! - nobody said it was a bad lens, just not as good as some others.
Krosya
Konicaze
Even though it's off topic, here's something even smaller.
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Nikkor 28mm f/3.5 (converted to M from AF600) on Voigtlander R4A.
It protrudes about 1 cm from the flange.
Of course the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH is quite a good modern lens and it's great on the R-D1.
Cheers,
Thats a cool looking lens there! Do you have any pics from it?
vrgard
Well-known
The problem with 3.5 is it's just too slow for me. These were all taken with the 2.8 at 2.8 most all the time, unless the light was so bright, that lowest ISO and fastest shutter made me slow the lens down.
I've been surprised by how well I can get by with the slower Canon 28/3.5 ltm lens. As is commonly known, it's easier to handhold at slower shutter speeds with a wider angle lens. For example, here's a low res scan of a shot from last week when I was visiting my godson in a dimly lit hospital room. This was taken with the Canon 28/3.5 ltm on my M6 at f3.5 and 1/8 sec:

ampguy
Veteran
Hi Randy
Hi Randy
Great photo. You've got a steady hand!
Yes, wider can let you go much slower. Last night at dusk I was struggling with a dslr with 300mm and 5.6, trying to photograph a deer and her cub about 200m away.
4th of July, we did some long expsures, but used tripods. Haven't hand held below 1/30th for awhile.
Hi Randy
Great photo. You've got a steady hand!
Yes, wider can let you go much slower. Last night at dusk I was struggling with a dslr with 300mm and 5.6, trying to photograph a deer and her cub about 200m away.
4th of July, we did some long expsures, but used tripods. Haven't hand held below 1/30th for awhile.
24mgdriver
Michael A. Bender
Did anyone had experience with the R-D1 and Minolta M-Rokkor 2,8/28mm ?
Ronchnam
Established
R-D1 and Rokkor 28
R-D1 and Rokkor 28
See my previous reply :
"Hi I have a Minolta M Rokkor 2.8 28 Great lens But the field is more 35 than 40 or 43 Just fit my VC 35 mm external viewfinder that I use wearing glasses."
Great lens even with the white dots. You can see it on my signature. I use it also with my Minolta CLE.
Regards
R-D1 and Rokkor 28
See my previous reply :
"Hi I have a Minolta M Rokkor 2.8 28 Great lens But the field is more 35 than 40 or 43 Just fit my VC 35 mm external viewfinder that I use wearing glasses."
Great lens even with the white dots. You can see it on my signature. I use it also with my Minolta CLE.
Regards
Ronchnam
Established
R-D1 and Rokkor 28
R-D1 and Rokkor 28
There is a 28 2.8 Rokkor for sale on KEH.com for $ 484
R-D1 and Rokkor 28
There is a 28 2.8 Rokkor for sale on KEH.com for $ 484
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