35 mm for walk around with Leica M-P. Which one?

Could you -- or someone else -- expand a little on this?

Little? 🙂

Let's take Color Skopar 35 2.5 as example. It is lens with huge contrast, bold saturation and simple rendering. Personally, I don't like low contrast lens, washed colors lens for color photography. Color Skopar is sweet lens for color.
Also, personally, I don't see significant importance of lens rendering for color. Too much of the character might be not good for color. To me "nervios bokeh" term is associated with color mostly.

In bw lens rendering and bokeh is more noticeable because of the absence of color. I was never satisfied with Color Skopar 35 rendering on scans and prints. Overkilling contrast and flat rendering on BW. It just missing some "parts" of the rendering from Leica lenses or other Voigtlander lenses.

In bw, old, uncoated lenses are in opposite, they give widest tonal range and amount of details, but tends to flare and loose too much contrast, even if they are clean optically. To me lens with medium contrast and medium, but not flat rendering is optimum. For prints, some prefer to have less contrast to be able to adjust it in enlarger or by single contrast FB paper.

35 Cron V5 will give very specific rendering of object in focus and it might be something to benefit on large prints. Or both versions of Ultron 35 ASPH which are superior to Color Skopar in BW and have less aggressive pronunciation of infocus part, while keeping nice, smooth, not as "cold" overall rendering as from Zeiss.

IMO.
 
35mm is the only focal length I own more then one lens in M mount. I have both the 35f1.2 Nokton and 35f2.8 C-Biogon. Both are great lenses but if push came to shove, I would sell the Nokton.

The 35f2.8 C Biogon may be the sharpest lens in 35 mm made today. I use it a LOT for travel on my M9.
 
I chose the Biogon 35/2 instead. It is an awesome lens overall.
I also use the first version 8-blade Summicron 35/2, and the Canon 35/(1.5, 2.0, 2.8) lenses.
 
You already have a regular size 35. A 'smaller' 35 is going to make zero practical size difference as a carry around lens. A couple o mm's? A few grams? Seriously? We're talking about small RF lenses here, which are dwarfed by prime SLR lenses.. If you want a real difference in size, something that will let you slip the camera and lens into a large pocket you gotta step up (down!) and get the Lomo 32mm 2.8. Otherwise just use one of the most awesome 35mm lenses ever made. Why else did u get it if not to have w u when out taking pics?

This sums it up for me too, although I know nothing about the Lomo.

Honestly, if you already have what is arguably one of the best modern Leica 35s, why not actually use it?
 
Get the 35 Summicron Asph. By doing that you won't have to buy any other lens. Maybe forever.


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Version 2-4 Cron. (The V1 is great, but costly.)

I have spent too much time over the years Googling about the various pre-ASPH 35mm Crons, including how they compare to the now-old ASPH. I think, in reality, they are all great lenses, compact--and well beyond any limitations I will ever have.
 
For a tiny sharp 35mm with lower contrast but high resolution, don't set aside the Canon 35mm/2.8.


BINGO! We have a winner! A tiny gem of a lens. The price difference between the Canon and any Leica competition would fund a lot of road trips and film to make photos with the Canon lens.
Isn't that the point of owning a lens?
Or there's the Konica UC-Hexanon.
You could do worse than either of these under appreciated optics.

Wayne
 
As I said some comments ago..... I got for not much the Voigtlander C.S. 35mm f/2,5 which promised to be great but hadn't tested it still.

Now here are the RESULTS

It's been a veeeery good deal!🙂
 
The Summilux 35mm f/1.4 v2 (1972 vintage) is my favorite lens on the M-P. It's a quirky little lens, Mandler through and through, with glorious bokeh wide open and razor sharp rendering at f/4-5.6. I had DAG install the six-bit code so I don't have to remember to set the lens code every time I fit it.

Small, light, and a unique rendering style. Can't get better.
 
I've had both the V4 and the asph, sold both and now use a Biogon-C.
Size wise not a lot to choose. V4 build quality is inferior to the other 2.
Biogon-C and asph about the same build. I'm not a fan of focus tabs and liked the look of the Zeiss on both film and my M9P.
A lot of Leica land get hung up on fast lenses but I've never noticed the 1 stop. I shoot mostly at 2.8-5.6 and wouldn't trade the Zeiss for anything else.
Cost? If that bothers some,
biogon-c 450 euro
v4 1000 euro
asph 1500 euro
thats a big difference to see Leica written on the front.
 
The Summilux 35mm f/1.4 v2 (1972 vintage) is my favorite lens on the M-P. It's a quirky little lens, Mandler through and through, with glorious bokeh wide open and razor sharp rendering at f/4-5.6. I had DAG install the six-bit code so I don't have to remember to set the lens code every time I fit it.

Small, light, and a unique rendering style. Can't get better.

Some see glorious and all I ever saw was misty London fog images wide open. Had 4 and all were the same. At f2 onward it just looks like a v4 and that aperture ring with the hood on is a pita. Completely over hyped lens along with the v4. Just my opinion.
Interestingly I used to get similar results from an old elmar I polished with toothpaste!
 
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