02Pilot
Malcontent
I have more 50s than I need, so I had to think about this from an "if you could only keep one" perspective. In that case, it came down to the Summitar. The compactness of the Elmar is a big plus in my book, however, and it was a close second.
Huss
Veteran
The skopar is a great little lens but.. don't know I don't trust on it.
Why not? It's a great little lens. There's a thread devoted to it here:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79618
I like using it as much as my other Leica lenses.
As Pioneer mentioned, what matters here is conditiion , no matter what lens you choose.
Bingley
Veteran
well, the summitar matches too.
with old lenses, the condition is very important - a good summitar may be better than a bad summicron.
we're talking about LTM, right? you mentioned a leica II ...
(asking again because the version 2 50mm/2.8 is only available in M bayonet)
Agreed. It may be easier to find a Summitar in great condition than a collapsible 'chron. A late, coated Summitar in great condition can be a really good landscape lens.
I've also used the 50/2.5 skopar for landscape work and loved the results. It also has the advantage of being very compact (more so than with an extended Summitar) if that matters to you.
ellisson
Well-known
The OP is looking for ltm lenses. The rigid Summicron in ltm is a rare and expensive beast.
Rare? Not that rare. Several on ebay now.
Expensive? Relative to collapsibles, yes. One on ebay with filter, looks in good shape for about $1000. Could probably get it down with the 'make and offer' option.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
If you are interested have a look at these lenses at Leica Shop in Austria.
This goes well with the Leica II.
http://www.leicashop.com/vintage_en...eica-elmar-red-scale-3-5-5cm-sku26026-15.html
or this is a nice lens for the Leica II.(Summitar 1948) -10 blade,coated lens in nice condition.
http://www.leicashop.com/vintage_en...-mount/summitar-2-5cm-f-leica-sku27732-9.html
They give a 14day refund if you are not happy with your purchase. I use them alot and they are very reliable.
Leicashop are expensive though. I would recommend Peter Loy in the UK, or Aperture London. Meister Camera in Hamburg. Equally trustworthy but less expensive.
froyd
Veteran
One BIG plus point for the Skopar vs the Elmar that the Bruno is currently considering, is the absolutely stellar ergonomics of the Voigtlander lens. I love that the barrel looks so similar to, and works as well as, a Summaron or early Summicron.
Bruno Gracia
Well-known
I've ended buying skopar and elmar 50, will see how them work and will keep just one!
Thanks for all your kind advices.
Thanks for all your kind advices.
besk
Well-known
How would a late Canon 50 f1.8 do in comparison? I assume it would have lower contrast.
As to the two you bought let us know which one you decide to keep.
As to the two you bought let us know which one you decide to keep.
scigeek
Well-known
My new "go-to" lens.I actually much prefer my Elmar 50/3.5 because it is so compact and handy. It is still a great lens and can be used indoors and out. Ilford Delta 3200 takes care of that little problem very nicely.
Lovely little lens, and handles colour well, even uncoated.
richard_l
Well-known
If you don't want good sharpness and contrast and lack of distortion, don't get the Elmar-M 50/2.8.
FrankS
Registered User
The Summitar is more difficult to find filters for as they are specific to Summitars (though there is an adaptor if I remember correctly.)
Bruno Gracia
Well-known
waiting my "new" Cron 50.
scigeek
Well-known
Don't count out the old uncoated 3.5/5cm Elmar!interesting to see this question posed as i'm on the hunt for a classic Leica 50. right now I've got it narrowed down to the Summitar and Summicron (collapsible).
it's worth knowing that the summitar comes in three versions: 1. (start-1946) uncoated with 10 blades (circular diaphragm), 2. (1946-50) coated with 10 blades, 3. (1950-end) coated with 6 blades (hexagonal diaphragm).

Leica red-blind 111c, 3.5/5cm uncoated Elmar, no filter, High St processed.
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