w1234ale
Member
Since I started shooting my 50 lux ASPH on my M9-p I am constantly stunned by the results. Even a lousy picture has amazing contrast, color, and rendering. It truly is an amazing combination and dare I say it, there is a magic to this lens.
So, here is the question. What other lenses have this same feeling, quality?
So, here is the question. What other lenses have this same feeling, quality?
seakayaker1
Well-known
The 50 Lux is stunning . . . . .
. . . . . I am consistently surprised the quality output of the 75 Cron!
. . . . . I am consistently surprised the quality output of the 75 Cron!
leicashot
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Firstly I must disagree with you. A lousy picture with amazing contrast, color and rendering is just high quality 'lousy picture'.
Secondly, there is no magic in a lens which is often associated with Leica lenses.
Lastly, the closest thing to a Lux ASPH in 50mm is the Zeiss Planar 50/2, but even that won't turn a lousy picture into anything more, even with 'real magic' ;-)
You don't need to use such language to validate your purchases. Just be happy with what you have and use your 'skills' to improve your pictures, without relying on the 'magic' somehow built into your lenses. There is a big difference between a great 'picture' and a lousy 'image' created with a modern sharp lens.
I suggest you concentrate on creating brilliant pictures with your lenses. Your lucky to own the best, most technically advanced 50mm ever made, so concentrate your pictures and don't contribute to all the lousy test shots floating the internet already....then post them here so we can ll appreciate 'your work' - and not the magic of 'your lens'.
Secondly, there is no magic in a lens which is often associated with Leica lenses.
Lastly, the closest thing to a Lux ASPH in 50mm is the Zeiss Planar 50/2, but even that won't turn a lousy picture into anything more, even with 'real magic' ;-)
You don't need to use such language to validate your purchases. Just be happy with what you have and use your 'skills' to improve your pictures, without relying on the 'magic' somehow built into your lenses. There is a big difference between a great 'picture' and a lousy 'image' created with a modern sharp lens.
I suggest you concentrate on creating brilliant pictures with your lenses. Your lucky to own the best, most technically advanced 50mm ever made, so concentrate your pictures and don't contribute to all the lousy test shots floating the internet already....then post them here so we can ll appreciate 'your work' - and not the magic of 'your lens'.
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250swb
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Darn it, when I read the OP I was going to say that!
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the very last thing people talked about in a photograph was the lens they used. Talk about the light, the situation, the project they are working on, the meaning of the image, and as an aside last of all 'this was with a 50mm Summilux'. Worst of all is when the first thing you do is guess what lens was used, simply because its the only thing of interest in a photograph.
Steve
KM-25
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So true, so very true.
I used to own the 50 Asph and shot it almost entirely with Kodachrome film over a three year span. But, I also used my F100 with a 50 1.4G Nikkor and found that in most cases at F/2 and smaller, I could not tell the lenses apart...and that was with slide film, the most telling medium of all in terms of lens output.
And when I used the same lenses on jobs for three weeks straight last year on an M9 and D700, there was not much of a difference at all.
But this was in professional use however, the kind where the image content and impact was so strong, that no one would care what lens I used.
I sold the Leica for this reason and went with a ZM 50/2 since all I use Leica for now is black and white work on Tri-x, fantastic lens, lighter, smaller and a professionally minded price structure. Don't miss the Leica 50 at all since Kodachrome is gone...and the 50 Leica was fantastic with the film, no regrets having used it.
I used to own the 50 Asph and shot it almost entirely with Kodachrome film over a three year span. But, I also used my F100 with a 50 1.4G Nikkor and found that in most cases at F/2 and smaller, I could not tell the lenses apart...and that was with slide film, the most telling medium of all in terms of lens output.
And when I used the same lenses on jobs for three weeks straight last year on an M9 and D700, there was not much of a difference at all.
But this was in professional use however, the kind where the image content and impact was so strong, that no one would care what lens I used.
I sold the Leica for this reason and went with a ZM 50/2 since all I use Leica for now is black and white work on Tri-x, fantastic lens, lighter, smaller and a professionally minded price structure. Don't miss the Leica 50 at all since Kodachrome is gone...and the 50 Leica was fantastic with the film, no regrets having used it.
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KM-25
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I have to agree, nothing is more eye-rolling material than to read a thread titled, "Nocti does Paris"......really......?....so your lens just hopped on a plane and went to France on it's own, lol!
This show we hung on Friday is doing very well in terms of sales. Unlike other ones I have done in the past, the camera is mentioned since some of the prints are as big as 30 x 30:
http://www.nuggetaspen.com/client.html?view_type=portfolio&id=48259&
This show we hung on Friday is doing very well in terms of sales. Unlike other ones I have done in the past, the camera is mentioned since some of the prints are as big as 30 x 30:
http://www.nuggetaspen.com/client.html?view_type=portfolio&id=48259&
daveywaugh
Blah
I get so tired of reading patronising posts - you must have got out of bed the wrong side? The OP just loves his or her new lens, enjoys the way it renders, and asked if there are other lenses with similar character. BTW you can still admire the aesthetics of lens character in a 'lousy picture'.
Back to the question... I have seen lovely rendering from the 75 lux.
Thardy
Veteran
So then it's iPhone does Paris? Amazing what [some] people can do with phone cameras.
w1234ale
Member
Good gracious lots of opinions out there. Indeed a lousy shot is lousy, no equipment will fix that, but I have been shooting for around 25 years with everything from a F1 to a point and shoot. I mostly shoot film. But the 50 lux out performs any lens I have ever owned, hands down and I would be appreciative for opinions on if there are other Leica lens that can match the performance.
I heartly thank you for any thoughts.
I heartly thank you for any thoughts.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
For the character, the Summiluxes 21 and 24 match the Summilux 50 asph. An expensive hobby...
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ferider
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My L-Hexanon 50/2.4 is at least as good as your 50 ASPH, at f2.4 and up that is
In other words: regarding rendering, etc., you might want to be a bit more specific, for example saying that it should be faster than f2. I personally think that within its specs the 50 asph is unique. Then again, a 500$ 50/1.5 LTM Nokton might create identical output for the naiive viewer of a 800x600 flickr post
Images please.
In other words: regarding rendering, etc., you might want to be a bit more specific, for example saying that it should be faster than f2. I personally think that within its specs the 50 asph is unique. Then again, a 500$ 50/1.5 LTM Nokton might create identical output for the naiive viewer of a 800x600 flickr post
Images please.
KM-25
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But you are talking about the lens, not a specific image you have made with it to blow our minds with. With Kodachrome film, which is far, far more telling of a lens's quality than even an M9, I found the combo of the older 35 1.4 asph and 50 1.4 asph to be a great pairing.
I am trying to help but man, is there not a place online besides private pro forums that do not discuss gear as if it were all that matters?
Leica glass only really stands out in color work when I am bringing no less than 6-8 beautifully balanced and fleeting sources of light together in one shot. Other than that, it is pixel level sharpness which does not really amount to much at the end of the day..
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Oh, lighten up, please! I know what he meant. You don't have to get up on your pedestal and make a righteous speech.
leicashot
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Rob, no pedestal needed, it seems you're already using it. May I have it once you're done?
But seriously I know where the OP is coming from because the Summilux ASPH is as perfect a lens as you can find, I agree. But there's no need to go off using such words cause it is only a lens after-all. Thats my point, nothing more.
Glad you thought it was a righteous speech Rob.
Cheers
leicashot
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I hear you mate, just don't take my words too seriously, I just speak very directly, which comes off a (little) hard in words. I also used to shoot F1 professionally actually.
Contax G 45/2 Planar has amazing 'pop.' That's a scientific term.
If I could own only one lens regardless of price, it would be the 35/1.4 Lux ASPH, either version. Short of the $4k-$7k going rate those are, I'll make do with other amazing lenses like the Planar.
If I could own only one lens regardless of price, it would be the 35/1.4 Lux ASPH, either version. Short of the $4k-$7k going rate those are, I'll make do with other amazing lenses like the Planar.
leicashot
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I appreciate this post Davey. You disagreed with me, then carried on to answer the Op's question. Respect to you....and I did wake up on the wrong side today so pardon my directness.
To actually answer the OP's question including outside the M system, the only lens to match the Lux ASPH's closeness to 'perfection' is the Zeiss ZF/ZE 100mm f/2. That wide open, like the 50mm Lux ASPH is just about perfect. Nothing under 50mm comes close because there are always compromises that get in the way during lens design.
Cheers
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Ranchu
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I thought an F1 was a race car? Nice glass is fun to talk about, what do they talk about in 'private pro forums'? Copyrights and bitching about ADs? Oh, that's fun.
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