Joe, any chopped heads of feet using the 40?
50 on an r4?
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not yet.
i need to start scanning...
i need to start scanning...
Trius
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back alley said:
Obviously you need to try harder.
sockeyed
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I've shot quite a bit with the 40-Nokton on my R4M (using the 35mm framlines) and it works very well. I spent the weekend out of town with the 25mm and the 40mm and the R4M and found it a great kit. No lost heads or feet (I also use the 40 on my M6 with no ill effect either).
sockeyed
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BTW, Joe - looking at your sig, you already have a lens for every frameline. Do you mean a new lens for every frameline? A small & slow lens for every frameline?
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a new small, slow cv lens for every fl the r4m has.
ferider
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back alley said:
Plus the 90/2.8 Hexanon, for the line that's missing 🙂
(congrats)
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the zi and the 90 are mates.
a 50 for the r4m may be uncalled for but i am seriously thinking about it.
it would be a complete cv kit, lightweight, small, not VERY expensive (in the general rf scheme of things) and i'm comfortable carrying it anywhere in town.
joe
a 50 for the r4m may be uncalled for but i am seriously thinking about it.
it would be a complete cv kit, lightweight, small, not VERY expensive (in the general rf scheme of things) and i'm comfortable carrying it anywhere in town.
joe
sockeyed
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You could fit the R4M + the five little lenses in couple of pockets. Not bad.
Can you imagine the size of that kit if you were using a DSLR? You'd need a kid's wagon or a wheelbarrow to carry everything around.
Can you imagine the size of that kit if you were using a DSLR? You'd need a kid's wagon or a wheelbarrow to carry everything around.
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the cv 50/2.5 looks as small as the other tiny lenses, like the slow 21/25/28/35 lenses so it fits my criteria of not blocking the finder.
and for the price and weight in the bag it wont hurt much at all.
i think it would be great to have a complete wide angle kit and the 50 all in one package.
and for the price and weight in the bag it wont hurt much at all.
i think it would be great to have a complete wide angle kit and the 50 all in one package.
dostacos
Dan
remember, it is discontinued so get it while the getting is good [like I did 20 minutes ago😱 ]back alley said:
ferider
Veteran
OK, trying to be a little more constructive (I don't own the R4*):
50 relates to 21 roughly like 85 to 35.
In other words, focusing the 50 on the R4 (in terms of frameline size)
shouldn't be much harder than focusing an 85/90 on an R2 or M6 finder.
People do it all the time.
Get it if you want it ! I am looking forward to some photos with this lens ...
Cheers,
Roland.
50 relates to 21 roughly like 85 to 35.
In other words, focusing the 50 on the R4 (in terms of frameline size)
shouldn't be much harder than focusing an 85/90 on an R2 or M6 finder.
People do it all the time.
Get it if you want it ! I am looking forward to some photos with this lens ...
Cheers,
Roland.
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i didn't realize that it's a discontinued lens.
i remember when i had the mamiya 6, there were many complaints that the 150 lens was hard to focus but i never had a problem with it.
i'm not anticipating any problems with a slow 50 on the r4.
joe
i remember when i had the mamiya 6, there were many complaints that the 150 lens was hard to focus but i never had a problem with it.
i'm not anticipating any problems with a slow 50 on the r4.
joe
peter_n
Veteran
So I just tried two 50s that are to hand here on my R4; a rigid Summicron and the current Elmar-M 50/2.8. You can certainly see the rigid barrel in the VF but it doesn't get as far as the 50mm framelines. You can hardly see the Elmar-M in the VF at all and it is nowhere near the framelines. Both very easy to focus in my brightly lit office.
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my zm 50/1.5 fits nicely also without blocking the framelines, but, without the hood.
one of the attractions of the smaller cv lenses are the tiny hoods.
joe
one of the attractions of the smaller cv lenses are the tiny hoods.
joe
puffy
Newbie
Hi guys, I'm glad some of you have tried the 50 on a R4 and have shared your experiences. I'm looking to get a 50 or a 40 Nokton soon for my R4.
I guess the issue for me is not about whether you can frame a 40 or a 50mm on a r4, but rather if I use the 40 or 50mm wide open, will I have have issues focusing accurately. I'm more inclined for the 40mm due to this, of course I would prefer a 50 if focusing accurately is no issue. 😀 Can anyone share their insight / experience on this?
I should be getting the 40 as soon as my local dealer gets his stock. Well if its really difficult focusing sharply, mabbe I'll get a R3 as well :angel: .
I guess the issue for me is not about whether you can frame a 40 or a 50mm on a r4, but rather if I use the 40 or 50mm wide open, will I have have issues focusing accurately. I'm more inclined for the 40mm due to this, of course I would prefer a 50 if focusing accurately is no issue. 😀 Can anyone share their insight / experience on this?
I should be getting the 40 as soon as my local dealer gets his stock. Well if its really difficult focusing sharply, mabbe I'll get a R3 as well :angel: .
peter_n
Veteran
We all have different eyes. Provided the film plane is flat I feel confident that I could focus accurately in good light at f2 and that the resultant print would be sharp in the plane of focus. I say this not having seen a neg. taken with a 50 on this camera, but I repeat that I do not have a problem focusing accurately with a 50 on the R4. As a baseline I normally use a 0.85mag M7 for a 50mm lens. The VF and the focusing patch in the R4 are very good IMHO.
dostacos
Dan
OOPS😱 I seem to have added it to the 28/3.5 and the 35/1.7back alley said:
dostacos
Dan
I am confused, people talk about focus issues with a 50 BUT the focus area is the same regardless of framelines they don't affect the focus patch at all...
please unconfuse me
please unconfuse me
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Joe
The hoods are tiny because you did not buy the big hoods for >Ca$.
Dan
The rangefinder accuracy is dependent on the baselength and the magnification so the R4m is less easy to focus, because of its low magnification, a 50mm or greater needs more accurate focusing than a 21mm
Noel
The hoods are tiny because you did not buy the big hoods for >Ca$.
Dan
The rangefinder accuracy is dependent on the baselength and the magnification so the R4m is less easy to focus, because of its low magnification, a 50mm or greater needs more accurate focusing than a 21mm
Noel
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