I'm interested in purchasing a Zorki, FED, etc. 50mm lens for my Bessa R.
However, with all the variances in registration I've read about, it seems as though there's a very good chance that I'll be spending money on a paperweight.
What the deal with glass like this? Do you just roll the dice and hope for the best? Is there a simple way of shimming the lens if need-be? And how--and with what--is it done?
Thanks,
-CJ
However, with all the variances in registration I've read about, it seems as though there's a very good chance that I'll be spending money on a paperweight.
What the deal with glass like this? Do you just roll the dice and hope for the best? Is there a simple way of shimming the lens if need-be? And how--and with what--is it done?
Thanks,
-CJ
peterc
Heretic
I have two Jupiter 8 lenses (black and chrome) that work fine on the Bessa R.
I also have a FED Elmar copy (see my avatar) that works on the Bessa.
No shimming or other hijinks required.
Peter
I also have a FED Elmar copy (see my avatar) that works on the Bessa.
No shimming or other hijinks required.
Peter
BrianPhotog
Well-known
I have an Industrar and Jupiter 8 50mm lenses for my R2 and R2a. No problems. The Russian-made 35s will block your meter, tho.
K
Kin Lau
Guest
All the 50's work fine, just don't try to collapse any of them like the I-22 or I-50, it _will_ hit the shutter.
The Russian 35mm Jupiter 12 also will _not_ work. The rear element _will_ hit the shutter.
The Russian 35mm Jupiter 12 also will _not_ work. The rear element _will_ hit the shutter.
arbib
Well-known
I have a Industar 61 LD - 55mm F/2.8. Black with Chrome rings. I just got it, I was told as long as I used a "Quality" M adapter (CV, Leitz) there is no need to shim the lens. The previous owner used it on a R-D1 (Bessa R2 body) with fine results. I just droped the roll off that has sample shoots, so it may be a week or so before I see the results.
I'm told the Industar 61 LD is one of the sharpest FSU normal lens.
I'm told the Industar 61 LD is one of the sharpest FSU normal lens.
brachal
Refrigerated User
I've used Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8, Industar-61 LD, Jupiter-9, and Jupiter-11 lenses on my R and I've never had an issue. I'm not a guy who takes pictures of things wide-open at 1 meter
, but I've never had a problem. If you get a good example you'll be OK.
There's still some debate about whether or not the focal registration of these lenses is different from Western LTM or not. I'm not sold on it. Most sources that support the theory claim that the focusing error will be 4 - 5 cm at 1 m. At greater distances (and tighter apertures) DOF would cover it.
The best advice I can give would be to spend a little extra money and buy from a trustworthy dealer -- I would recommend Yuri at fedka.com. There's a lot of information in the Russian RF forum about adjusting and shimming these lenses if it comes to that. Search and you'll find it.
There's still some debate about whether or not the focal registration of these lenses is different from Western LTM or not. I'm not sold on it. Most sources that support the theory claim that the focusing error will be 4 - 5 cm at 1 m. At greater distances (and tighter apertures) DOF would cover it.
The best advice I can give would be to spend a little extra money and buy from a trustworthy dealer -- I would recommend Yuri at fedka.com. There's a lot of information in the Russian RF forum about adjusting and shimming these lenses if it comes to that. Search and you'll find it.
morgan
Well-known
I've used a J-3 and the industar 61 on my bessa-r with no issues. Great glass!
R
RML
Guest
The J-8 was my favourite 50mm on my R-D1 until I got the CZ 50/2. For me iIt took quite a fabulous lens to replace the J-8.
Photos are aplenty on my photo portfolio, especially in the PAWs before June 2005 ( http://shardsofphotography2.blogspot.com/ )
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I've used several FSU 50's on the Bessa, including a Jupiter-8, Industar-61 and collapsible Industar-22. I had no problems with these.
With the INdustar-22 I put a rubber band around the barrel so it wouldn't collapse fully into the body.
I've also taken photos with the Jupiter-12 35mm lens, but I can't recommend it; on my Bessa it will hit the shutter when focused at > 10m.
With the INdustar-22 I put a rubber band around the barrel so it wouldn't collapse fully into the body.
I've also taken photos with the Jupiter-12 35mm lens, but I can't recommend it; on my Bessa it will hit the shutter when focused at > 10m.
Spyderman
Well-known
Read here:
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/compat.html
then here:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33874
PS: Sorry, but I'm too busy at the moment to write it all again... if you have any more questions after reading these two links then I'll try to answer.
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/compat.html
then here:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33874
PS: Sorry, but I'm too busy at the moment to write it all again... if you have any more questions after reading these two links then I'll try to answer.
januaryman
"Flim? You want flim?"
Got my Bessa R & lens just last week, used. I have the Industar 61 and have no issues, either. Here's one of the images from my first roll. http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=367586286&size=l
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