50 Summicron "bokeh" ?

[semilog]

Version IV (tabbed, current optical formula).

 

[ferider]

For my taste, the DR has much prettier rendering than the v3 and v4 that I had, at the cost of corner resolution wide open - this is very subjective of course. Here are two DR shots:

Roland.

 

[umcelinho]

Shoot with the Summicron. See if you like the results and if the speed works well for you. If not, you can always sell it and get the money back. I'd get a Nokton 1.5 before selling the 'cron though, to shoot with both and compare well.

I have a DR Summicron, it delivers beautiful tones and bokeh, but the Nokton does too, only in a different way (more saturated and more contrasty). Depending on the situation I use one or another.

DR close range

DR normal range

Nokton 1.5

 

[Calzone]

I own a Rigid Cron. Besides the nice Bokeh there is this smoothness to the OOF that is very painterly. In comparision, I say the DR Cron probably takes this further with its closer focus.

As far as having a lens to shoot only wide open or stopped down only one stop, my favorite is the CV 50/2.0 Nickel Heliar. While the 35/2.0 V.4 Bokeh King, 75/1.4 Lux V.3, and 50/2.0 Rigid Cron that I own all have ten blade aperatures, the Voightlander Nickel Heliar has eleven blades on its diaphram. The OOF is so smooth that some people have mistakenly critisized this lens to be soft wide open, but it isn't IMHO. In this manner I judge the smoothness of the OOF areas to be greater than my 50 rigid, so great that the 50/2.0 Nickel Heliar got a bad reputation. The Nickel Heliar wide open is pretty distinguished, but when you add the creative element of flare when my 50 Rigid is used, both are keepers.

Cal

 

[ferider]

There is an interesting tid-bit of tech info reg. your comment on aperture blades, Cal.

When you shoot closed down against a strong highlight, your picture will show a star pattern around the highlight. Or corners in the OOF around highlights. For an even number of aperture blades, the number of corners is the same as the number of aperture blades. For an odd number of aperture blades, the number of corners is twice the number of blades. Meaning 11 vs. 10 blades can make a huge difference.

 

[Calzone]

There is an interesting tid-bit of tech info reg. your comment on aperture blades, Cal.

When you shoot closed down against a strong highlight, your picture will show a star pattern around the highlight. Or corners in the OOF around highlights. For an even number of aperture blades, the number of corners is the same as the number of aperture blades. For an odd number of aperture blades, the number of corners is twice the number of blades. Meaning 11 vs. 10 blades can make a huge difference.

Thanks for the info.

The 50/2.0 Nickel Heliar also kinda does this high-key lighting effect under dim lighting. How does a lense that is soft wide open do this? Like I said, "People are mistaken."

I'll have to look for the exagerated star pattern. I don't remember ever seeing it. BTW, unlike my Rigid Cron the Nickel Heliar doesn't seem to be prone to flair. Another thing is that the contrast is kinda medium. I was expecting more contrast from a modern lens, but for B&W (what I do) this is a killer lens.

Still love the look of the Rigid Cron, especially the sharp center punch with the gentle softening towards the edges, when shot wide open. I think this is a great portrait lens.

Cal

 

[Fujitsu]

Thanks everyone, received a Cron this morning and couldnt resist to snap some test shots during lunch.

Bokeh can be nice at f2 but I fear I will lust for something faster sooner or later...

 

[oleg C]

Thanks everyone, received a Cron this morning and couldnt resist to snap some test shots during lunch.

Bokeh can be nice at f2 but I fear I will lust for something faster sooner or later...

Nice street shot.. What version you end up getting?

 

[CK Dexter Haven]

Nokton 1.5

How can anyone say anything bad (in other discussions) about the Nokton? Best bokeh in the thread.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

I agree this is an amazing lens. And what a great photograph...

Cheers,

Juan

 

[raid]

I own a Rigid Cron. Besides the nice Bokeh there is this smoothness to the OOF that is very painterly. In comparision, I say the DR Cron probably takes this further with its closer focus.

As far as having a lens to shoot only wide open or stopped down only one stop, my favorite is the CV 50/2.0 Nickel Heliar. While the 35/2.0 V.4 Bokeh King, 75/1.4 Lux V.3, and 50/2.0 Rigid Cron that I own all have ten blade aperatures, the Voightlander Nickel Heliar has eleven blades on its diaphram. The OOF is so smooth that some people have mistakenly critisized this lens to be soft wide open, but it isn't IMHO. In this manner I judge the smoothness of the OOF areas to be greater than my 50 rigid, so great that the 50/2.0 Nickel Heliar got a bad reputation. The Nickel Heliar wide open is pretty distinguished, but when you add the creative element of flare when my 50 Rigid is used, both are keepers.

Cal

Cal
Is the classic Heliar identical optically to the Nickel Heliar?