Kai-san
Filmwaster
Good, I was hoping somebody here would snap it up. I could easily have used the other parts as well, so it really would have been a steal. Just have to watch out and be patient. Hope the 3012 is worth the money, they are certainly not cheap.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Good, I was hoping somebody here would snap it up. I could easily have used the other parts as well, so it really would have been a steal. Just have to watch out and be patient. Hope the 3012 is worth the money, they are certainly not cheap.
Kai,
The 3012 is a very good tank for using three of those Nikor 15 foot stainless steel reels or 15 foot Kinderman reels. Perfect so much that no spacer is required and the lid holds the reels so they don't rattle around.
I have a 3013 which is the same size tank. Bought mine for $102.50 plus $20.00 shipping. One just has to be patient.
It takes 2 liters to cover a stainless steel fifteen footer, so a little more than 6 liters to fill the tank for inversion. If you can roll the tank on say a Uniroller or build that processor that Dan posted you save on the volume of developer required.
To me this is maxing out 70mm in every way. Pretty much over 18 rolls of 120 equiv all in one tank. Also let's not forget the time saved by not having to reload constantly, and also cheap fresh film like Rollie 400S that brings down the costs to about $3.00 a roll per 120 equiv.
Cal
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Hey Kai-San,
Bummer he won't ship to you. But thanks for the heads up! 35 Bucks for a Nikor 70mm reel is acceptable. So I just bought this lot.
70mm Nikor reel by Nokton48, on Flickr
70mm reels are around but one must be patient.
Dan,
You are a dog. Wish I won that 70mm Nikor.
Cal
Kai-san
Filmwaster
wjlapier
Well-known
Came across this video where a guy shows how to use the two 35mm Patterson type reels to make one reel for 70mm. A little practice and I'm about ready to do the real thing in the changing bag. My reels and a piece of 70mm film:

I'm not shooting 15' at a time so these reels for 120 film will be fine.

I'm not shooting 15' at a time so these reels for 120 film will be fine.
Nokton48
Veteran
Sounds and looks like you are getting there! Excellent news.
I was surprised how quickly the 70mm Rollei 400s arrived from Germany.
Nikor made a film loading machine, too. See here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikor-Film...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
I was surprised how quickly the 70mm Rollei 400s arrived from Germany.
Nikor made a film loading machine, too. See here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikor-Film...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Came across this video where a guy shows how to use the two 35mm Patterson type reels to make one reel for 70mm. A little practice and I'm about ready to do the real thing in the changing bag. My reels and a piece of 70mm film:
I'm not shooting 15' at a time so these reels for 120 film will be fine.
Nokton48
Veteran
Heads up! Here is a Beatty Coleman Transet 70mm film back (4x5 Graflock type). If you have a camera that takes a 4x5 Graflock and want to try 70mm film, this back is definitely one to consider. 6x8cm image approx. Two advantages of the Beatty back
1) Will pull perforated or non-peforated 70mm film through. See the soft rubber rollers? A lot of the film out there right now is non-perforated. This back doesn't care.
2) No 70mm cartridges involved with this one, but you have to load it in the dark. But not scratches ever due to old 70mm Kodak cartridges. Very clean and scratch free operation.
Beatty Coleman 70mm Transet Back Graflock Type by Nokton48, on Flickr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beattie-Co...553454?hash=item2a9dd428ee:g:mAUAAOSwZ11aahpw
Beatty Coleman Transet 70mm Film Back 4x5 Graflock type by Nokton48, on Flickr
1) Will pull perforated or non-peforated 70mm film through. See the soft rubber rollers? A lot of the film out there right now is non-perforated. This back doesn't care.
2) No 70mm cartridges involved with this one, but you have to load it in the dark. But not scratches ever due to old 70mm Kodak cartridges. Very clean and scratch free operation.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beattie-Co...553454?hash=item2a9dd428ee:g:mAUAAOSwZ11aahpw

Nokton48
Veteran
Nikor made a film loading stand. Does anybody here know if this will work with 70mm?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikor-Film...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikor-Film...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Nokton48
Veteran
Dan,
You are a dog. Wish I won that 70mm Nikor.
Cal
Yes Cal I know. LOL
It's here now, I could use a few more of these I am thinking. Here it is inside my Kindermann single tank.

wjlapier
Well-known
wjlapier
Well-known
Got my 70mm rig together finally. I went out shooting today and got about 11 shots on the roll. It's hard to know how much film you have on the roll working in the bag.
Mamiya RB67 with a 90m KL lens. 70mm back and I didn't use the suction bulb. Rodinal 1+100 stand and I think the negs turned out really well. This is the Rollei 400 film. A few pics of the rig, and some results from today.






It was fun putting this all together. Using the RB67 wasn't as bad as some make it out to be--see the GX680IIIs up above. Makes the RB67 look tiny! I used a monopod for all photos. Thanks for all the info shared in this thread. I'm anxious to find more film and see what I can do with it.
I actually have some unperforated film in the RB67 and it seems to be going through fine and the counter is working OK. We'll see when I finish the roll and develop it.
Mamiya RB67 with a 90m KL lens. 70mm back and I didn't use the suction bulb. Rodinal 1+100 stand and I think the negs turned out really well. This is the Rollei 400 film. A few pics of the rig, and some results from today.






It was fun putting this all together. Using the RB67 wasn't as bad as some make it out to be--see the GX680IIIs up above. Makes the RB67 look tiny! I used a monopod for all photos. Thanks for all the info shared in this thread. I'm anxious to find more film and see what I can do with it.
I actually have some unperforated film in the RB67 and it seems to be going through fine and the counter is working OK. We'll see when I finish the roll and develop it.
Nokton48
Veteran
Very impressive!
Nokton48
Veteran
I bought this pack of 70mm Sleeves from B&H seven or eight years ago. Must have been new old stock.
vueall neg pages by Nokton48, on Flickr
Vue All 70mm neg sleeves in a thousand foot roll.
Vue All 70mm Sleeves 2 by Nokton48, on Flickr
Vue All 70mm Sleeves 1 by Nokton48, on Flickr

Vue All 70mm neg sleeves in a thousand foot roll.


Nokton48
Veteran
I'm a big fan of the GX680 lenses, I have hacked nearly the complete set, to fit on my focal plane 9x9cm Plaubel Makiflexes.

These lenses are undervalued and are truly excellent! This has been a very fun project.

One of my Plaubel Makiflexes, with the 65mm Fuji GX680 lens. The film back is a 70mm Beatty Coleman Transet, loaded with unperforated fresh EFKE 100PL that I bought on a closeout from J&C years ago.
wjlapier
Well-known
undervalued is right. Those hacks are very cool. I don't want to think about that just yet!
I need 70mm sleeves though.
I need 70mm sleeves though.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
undervalued is right. Those hacks are very cool. I don't want to think about that just yet!
I need 70mm sleeves though.
WJL.
I bought a 1000 foot roll of the heavier sleeving at B&H for $78.00. There was a lighter gauge sleeving for less. Not in the store, so it was delivered for free. Not a stock item.
Cal
Kai-san
Filmwaster
undervalued is right. Those hacks are very cool. I don't want to think about that just yet!
I need 70mm sleeves though.
I just checked my Kenro glassine sheets that I use for 120 film, the inserts measures 72-73mm in width. It will be tight but I think it will work with a little care. Finding dedicated 70mm sheets now is probably not going to be easy.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
I just checked my Kenro glassine sheets that I use for 120 film, the inserts measures 72-73mm in width. It will be tight but I think it will work with a little care. Finding dedicated 70mm sheets now is probably not going to be easy.
K,
Rolls of sleeving are available at B&H. What makes it costly is it is a bulk of 1000 feet.
Cal
Nokton48
Veteran
When I first started shooting 70mm, I cut away the perforations both sides. Then it fits in a 120 sleeve
Kai-san
Filmwaster
K,
Rolls of sleeving are available at B&H. What makes it costly is it is a bulk of 1000 feet.
Cal
Thanks Cal, but I'm not too keen on those. I guess you would have to store the film strips loose in a box. The X-Ray/NDT shops offer boxes with dividers, but I prefer to keep my negatives in binders. I also prefer the glassine sheets because they will soak up and release any moisture that might occur. I just ordered my first roll of Rollei Infrared 400 so I will soon find out if those 120 sheets are usable.
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