ishpop
tall person
Was able to play with the camera for a few days, really want one, never thought I'd enjoy it as much as I did. Context, I dont shoot B/W that often, but this experience made me want to explore it. Processed in ACR to boost contrast and blacks a bit, files are really grey. Probably could do a lot better with them, but I think I need to read up on how.




mfogiel
Veteran
How do you find the tonality? My first impression is that of great resolution and mediocre tonality.
To give a comparison with a film shot made in similar conditions - in not so great light and in contre jour - the resolution is obviously lower, but i like the tonality much better:

20123655 by mfogiel, on Flickr
To give a comparison with a film shot made in similar conditions - in not so great light and in contre jour - the resolution is obviously lower, but i like the tonality much better:

20123655 by mfogiel, on Flickr
emayoh
Established
I really like your connections here. Very warm and close. Thank you for sharing!
ishpop
tall person
@mfogiel, I think your shot shows why film still rules.
I agree, there's a clear difference, hard to ever find words to describe it though. Mostly, I just am having a hard time making time to process film. So always looking for a quicker path. Perhaps with a little experience the M9M files could be made to resemble film a little more closely.
alistair.o
Well-known
...Mostly, I just am having a hard time making time to process film. So always looking for a quicker path. Perhaps with a little experience the M9M files could be made to resemble film a little more closely.
I am about to enter where 'Angels fear to tread' so to speak but, I got the impression that the M9M is a combo with the new lenses and even then they have to be set up precisely. Yes it is backward compatible with older M lenses, but there again, it is all about getting the system setup correctly? Am I way off?
As for your comments regarding processing and a quicker path - I could not agree more.
RichardB
Well-known
Unless you are viewing your B&W image on analog paper print, I believe analog and digital repersentations on a digital display as severly lacking in what analog and/or Digital B&W can convey.
One of the best examples of this is Gordon Parks works in an exhibition. The B&W prints are simply stunning and more so because of the tonality of most of his subjects. Viewing my first Parks exhibition, I was simply stunned.
I rarely work in B&W anymore and digital prints from analog B&W media suffer by comparison.
I like the idea of a Monochrome M but have yet to view a digital process that can do justice to a digital monochrome original.-Dick
One of the best examples of this is Gordon Parks works in an exhibition. The B&W prints are simply stunning and more so because of the tonality of most of his subjects. Viewing my first Parks exhibition, I was simply stunned.
I rarely work in B&W anymore and digital prints from analog B&W media suffer by comparison.
I like the idea of a Monochrome M but have yet to view a digital process that can do justice to a digital monochrome original.-Dick
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
It still is digital. And B&W digital will never look like film.
dierk
Member
leicashot
Well-known
Guys, a small point, but we should get it right....the camera is the Leica M Monochom. Its not an M9M.
Nice pics
Nice pics
Dana B.
Well-known
Guys, a small point, but we should get it right....the camera is the Leica M Monochom. Its not an M9M.
Nice pics
I don't think anyone cares what Leica calls it. Monochom sounds ridiculous. And MM sounds like M&M which sounds like candy. Since the base camera is an M9, and since it was designed to shoot monochrome (B&W), why not simply dub it M9M?
jtm6
Well-known
M-Monochrom. 
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
How do you find the tonality? My first impression is that of great resolution and mediocre tonality.
To give a comparison with a film shot made in similar conditions - in not so great light and in contre jour - the resolution is obviously lower, but i like the tonality much better:
20123655 by mfogiel, on Flickr
The only differences I see are that your image is in a higher key, with a bit less contrast. Otherwise I don't think I'd notice anything in either, if displayed on a wall, that would say "DIGITAL" or "FILM".
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
It still is digital. And B&W digital will never look like film.
Why "never"? That's a long time. All it takes is some market demand for digital that looks like b&w film. Then it will be here, given a year or so for the software guys to do that instead of doing something else. Its just programming. Hell... how long will it be before I can select a menu item in my camera that says "b&w" and another that says "[some word that the lawyers say won't get the programmers in trouble with Leica by saying Noctilux]"? Certainly in a few years, maybe much less.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
It still is digital. And B&W digital will never look like film.
Honestly, who gets serious about that anymore except a few holdouts?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
It's just occured to me that some poor sod who takes the trouble to post images from the new Monochrom is now having to bear the tedium of the on going war between film and digital here at RFF.
I'll be glad when it's all decided and we can get on with photography!
I'll be glad when it's all decided and we can get on with photography!
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I would like to join you with some portraits, I made since I got my MM
all images with Leica M Monochrom, Leica Apo Summicron 75mm/2.0@f/11, two soft boxes
PP in LR 4.1
Click for bigger images
find more from Leica MM in my flickr
These are quite nice; was that in a studio setting or do you carry the flash setup around with you?
Richard G
Veteran
It's just occured to me that some poor sod who takes the trouble to post images from the new Monochrom is now having to bear the tedium of the on going war between film and digital here at RFF.
I'll be glad when it's all decided and we can get on with photography!![]()
Yes, this has worried me too. I reckon if I actually got one I would not want to say and just post the pictures. We have a few RFF members braver than me (and better photographers) who have generously shared some pictures with us and it has not been smooth sailing necessarily.
dierk
Member
Thanks,These are quite nice; was that in a studio setting or do you carry the flash setup around with you?
it is in my studio, 2 soft boxes 90cm and black background
this is normal light from existing lamps, the image has no PP besides LR 4.1 standard
click for full resolution image
you may notice, that is is a bit blurred.

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