aizan
Veteran
it's going to be a panoramic camera. *crosses fingers*
BillBingham2
Registered User
New Sony watch/camera/cellphone/coffeemaker
But then again I was wrong on the Canon RF that used that posty-thingy to adjust for parallax twice so maybe not.
B2 (;->
But then again I was wrong on the Canon RF that used that posty-thingy to adjust for parallax twice so maybe not.
B2 (;->
froyd
Veteran
Keep it classy, internet.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Blah, unless its and update to the 645zi, I could care less.
Now if they pack a sensor in that package, ill be taking offers on my organs and limbs.
This would indeed be cool. Medium-format digital, though, has been something of a dud. On all cameras You get increased DOF control as you get to 24x36, but then lenses start slowing down maximum aperture. On digital, that hurts low-light performance - and then there is the problem that MF sensors don't draw the R&D money. One thing is for sure - it would be $3-4K minimum. For six months, at least.
Dante
littleearth
Well-known
It's the Fuji GA 645D.
f16sunshine
Moderator
it's going to be a panoramic camera. *crosses fingers*
Pano sw now owns panorama.... I think the toothpaste is pretty much out of that tube and it's not going back in
daveleo
what?
We need a body roadmap chart from Fuji, like their lens roadmap.
I am not buying any more lenses until I see what's in the future for the XE / Xpro body lines. If they are going to die, that's going to be a big decision point for me.
Back on topic: a fixed lens MF digital rangefinder??? --- $7000USD
I am not buying any more lenses until I see what's in the future for the XE / Xpro body lines. If they are going to die, that's going to be a big decision point for me.
Back on topic: a fixed lens MF digital rangefinder??? --- $7000USD
f16sunshine
Moderator
We need a body roadmap chart from Fuji, like their lens roadmap. I am not buying any more lenses until I see what's in the future for the XE / Xpro body lines. If they are going to die, that's going to be a big decision point for me. Back on topic: a fixed lens MF digital rangefinder??? --- $7000USD
That would be less than 1 Leica S system lens costs.
Dante is onto the issue with MF.
Medium format is great if the lenses are fast enough to enhance DOF control vs 24x36.
In order to make a fixed lens MF body the lens is going to be quite slow or quite large.
f16sunshine
Moderator
.... enough childishness please!
aizan
Veteran
Pano sw now owns panorama.... I think the toothpaste is pretty much out of that tube and it's not going back in![]()
yeah, but it can't make a pano in one shot.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Come to think of it, the X100 series really can't be compared to anything else.
True. Even at full freight, the X100T has the best value proposition of any Fuji. All the good things about the X-T1, with a tiny, killer lens, with much better flash usability -- and without the cosmetic baggage, weight, or bulk.
Dante
Spanik
Well-known
This would indeed be cool. Medium-format digital, though, has been something of a dud. On all cameras You get increased DOF control as you get to 24x36, but then lenses start slowing down maximum aperture. On digital, that hurts low-light performance - and then there is the problem that MF sensors don't draw the R&D money. One thing is for sure - it would be $3-4K minimum. For six months, at least.
Dante
I fear the problem of digital MF is more in the lenses than the sensors. Wide angles in MF have never been the best performing lenses and from what we see happening in digital 24x36 it are the lenses that need a bigger redesign than the sensors. Sensors outresolve lenses. And the volumes aren't there in MF. We're going to pixel peep at 100%, not just print to the same size as we did with film.
But otherwise I agree, a digital 645Zi would be awesome. With a 45-120 f/4 lens.
Monochrom
Well-known
Hope they'll drop an FF camera at least with a decent AF system... Fuji has lots of great camera I can't understand why they don't make an FF one... 
dct
perpetual amateur
Pano sw now owns panorama.... I think the toothpaste is pretty much out of that tube and it's not going back in![]()
Exactly. Just think at moving objects.yeah, but it can't make a pano in one shot.
My wish would be something like an X100 with adjustable panorama field of view (similar to TX1/TX2)
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
How about a X100-type with a fixed tri-focal length lens, 24-35-50? 
GaryLH
Veteran
Sorry a bit of rambling.
.. Jamie's post got me started

I remember a while back there was a rumor about them using a 50ish mp 645 Sony sensor in regards to creating a mf type of camera.
While nothing in the digital world will ever do what the xpan did..that is a set of lenses that covered up to mf image circle w/ at times heavy vignetting but had the ability w/ a sliding film gate to shoot normal 35mm or pano by expanding the film gate up to 62mm across, thus proving mode usable film area.
Stitching or pano sweep functions are a close approximation but as all have said at cost of seeing issues w/ moving objects as well as needing sw corrections to handle the nodal related distortions after stitching is complete.
The only other alternative is in-camera crop otherwise we are doing crop during editing. Currently the only cameras w/ in-camera crop that I am aware of are the Sigma DP Quattro series w/ their 21:9 aspect ratio support at cost of less mp of course, but u get to c what u get.
I have never been a fan of sweep pano, but use it on occasion. If no moving objects, I tend to do multi stitch in PS or just crop in post. I plan to get the Sigma DP0 eventually and use it as my digital Xpan given it has the 21:9 aspect ratio and 21 fov lens.
I wish Fuji would add a pano aspect ratio one day maybe w/ this mf size sensor they may just do that.
For me.. My wish is for Fuji to give me a monochrome sensor (no filter array, no aa filter) on an xp/xe/xt family camera. While a mf size Fuji would be nice, it is just not something I would buy these days.
Gary
I remember a while back there was a rumor about them using a 50ish mp 645 Sony sensor in regards to creating a mf type of camera.
While nothing in the digital world will ever do what the xpan did..that is a set of lenses that covered up to mf image circle w/ at times heavy vignetting but had the ability w/ a sliding film gate to shoot normal 35mm or pano by expanding the film gate up to 62mm across, thus proving mode usable film area.
Stitching or pano sweep functions are a close approximation but as all have said at cost of seeing issues w/ moving objects as well as needing sw corrections to handle the nodal related distortions after stitching is complete.
The only other alternative is in-camera crop otherwise we are doing crop during editing. Currently the only cameras w/ in-camera crop that I am aware of are the Sigma DP Quattro series w/ their 21:9 aspect ratio support at cost of less mp of course, but u get to c what u get.
I have never been a fan of sweep pano, but use it on occasion. If no moving objects, I tend to do multi stitch in PS or just crop in post. I plan to get the Sigma DP0 eventually and use it as my digital Xpan given it has the 21:9 aspect ratio and 21 fov lens.
I wish Fuji would add a pano aspect ratio one day maybe w/ this mf size sensor they may just do that.
For me.. My wish is for Fuji to give me a monochrome sensor (no filter array, no aa filter) on an xp/xe/xt family camera. While a mf size Fuji would be nice, it is just not something I would buy these days.
Gary
Texsport
Well-known
Is a rotating lens digital MF possible?
That would allow faster lenses!
https://www.chinavasion.com/china/w...meras/5_MP_Swivel_Lens_Camera_with_3_Inch_LCD
Texsport
That would allow faster lenses!
https://www.chinavasion.com/china/w...meras/5_MP_Swivel_Lens_Camera_with_3_Inch_LCD
Texsport
daveleo
what?
How about a X100-type with a fixed tri-focal length lens, 24-35-50?![]()
I'm in.
konicaman
konicaman
Corran
Well-known
I think it's a bit premature to say MF digital is a "dud" because the lenses are slower and you have less DOF control. How much more (less!) DOF do you need??
There's more to MF lenses than just short DOF. Besides which, to my eye, there's more subject isolation and 3D-ness to an image on 4x5 with a lens at f/8, than on 35mm with a lens at f/2. That's partially due to the sharpness/detail rendered at f/8 on a large piece of film with longer focal lengths for a given field of view.
A digital 6x7 sensor, especially one that could be glommed onto the back of many 6x7 cameras, would be pretty awesome, to me at least. But a fixed-lens camera would be a start.
I like a lot of Fuji's older cameras but the X-series and all newer models are a complete snore to me as they are.
There's more to MF lenses than just short DOF. Besides which, to my eye, there's more subject isolation and 3D-ness to an image on 4x5 with a lens at f/8, than on 35mm with a lens at f/2. That's partially due to the sharpness/detail rendered at f/8 on a large piece of film with longer focal lengths for a given field of view.
A digital 6x7 sensor, especially one that could be glommed onto the back of many 6x7 cameras, would be pretty awesome, to me at least. But a fixed-lens camera would be a start.
I like a lot of Fuji's older cameras but the X-series and all newer models are a complete snore to me as they are.
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