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Sparrow
Veteran
... I can only sympathise, I've missed a lots of stuff over the years
kbg32
neo-romanticist
What significance was this image for you Pherd?
Ranchu
Veteran
Wow. That's a nice print.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
Kbg-
it's a print of Robert Capa (if the backside text and stamps are real). Whom i happen to like very, very much. It would've ment a LOT to me to own one of his original prints.
AND.
If i am not mistaken, this is a truly unique thing.
A 20x20cm print from 1943 that he took during the WW2 Tunisian battles (el guettar).
The print itself is strange. I could not find it published online anywhere - and i went thru a LOT of his pics from that era - incl Magnum database and incl an online store of LIFE issues from those times where you can look at the pages.
From the format it lookas as a Rolleiflex shot (which he indeed used those times).
BUT
two more interesting things:
I DID find on the Magnum archives site a shot of THE SAME tank (not the same type but the exact same tank with the same soldiers) -a shot that was probably taken on the same film roll, a few frames later than this. Features of the tank clearly recognizable. That shot is published on the web by Magnum, this one is not. See http://www.magnumphotos.com/image/PAR79058.html
And related to this:
The backside of this print clearly indicates that it was designated to be published in a paper at that time. It is marked with a caption text, it is marked with a stamp saying "please credit robert capa" and it is marked "original print, must be returned" by Pictorial Press Ltd. London.
It seems as this shot never made it to the editor- might have got "lost" somewhere on the way and ended up in some Dutch guy's drawer for the next 5-6 decades?🙂
Or it might have been deemed not publish-worthy and was sent back (and THEN it got lost)? I doubt it though coz it's a rather fine looking print.
I don't know the true story. The negs might still be around somewhere.
But this is a really unique piece of history, i think. Not a mint "limited edition one of 100" or such, but a one of 1 edition, world traveled, possibly with Capa's own typewritten text on the backside.
This thing might be worth nothing, or might be worth thousands - i can't judge. If it was mine, i wouldn't sell it - i'd gladly hang it swhere in my humble home.
But i didn't buy it- somebody else did.
It was listed together with another print as "prints from unknown photographers" that is rather surprising since if you know anything and you can read, it's easily recognizable who the photographer was from the backside inscriptions. It had a ridiculous 50 euro reserve price 🙂) the owner was surely surprised nicely at the end of the auction.
The last 10 seconds a higher bidder jumped in, he was obviously watching it knowing what it is, the price went up by a factor of 5, i could not click higher. I don't know what his automatic maximum bid was...
So, that's the little story why i posted this.
Sparrow- it's quite funny, just a few days ago i reacted on your comment that you have "a pile of Capa's prints on your desk" which were "fake" as you expressed. And here comes a real thing, right in fromt of me 😀
it's a print of Robert Capa (if the backside text and stamps are real). Whom i happen to like very, very much. It would've ment a LOT to me to own one of his original prints.
AND.
If i am not mistaken, this is a truly unique thing.
A 20x20cm print from 1943 that he took during the WW2 Tunisian battles (el guettar).
The print itself is strange. I could not find it published online anywhere - and i went thru a LOT of his pics from that era - incl Magnum database and incl an online store of LIFE issues from those times where you can look at the pages.
From the format it lookas as a Rolleiflex shot (which he indeed used those times).
BUT
two more interesting things:
I DID find on the Magnum archives site a shot of THE SAME tank (not the same type but the exact same tank with the same soldiers) -a shot that was probably taken on the same film roll, a few frames later than this. Features of the tank clearly recognizable. That shot is published on the web by Magnum, this one is not. See http://www.magnumphotos.com/image/PAR79058.html
And related to this:
The backside of this print clearly indicates that it was designated to be published in a paper at that time. It is marked with a caption text, it is marked with a stamp saying "please credit robert capa" and it is marked "original print, must be returned" by Pictorial Press Ltd. London.
It seems as this shot never made it to the editor- might have got "lost" somewhere on the way and ended up in some Dutch guy's drawer for the next 5-6 decades?🙂
Or it might have been deemed not publish-worthy and was sent back (and THEN it got lost)? I doubt it though coz it's a rather fine looking print.
I don't know the true story. The negs might still be around somewhere.
But this is a really unique piece of history, i think. Not a mint "limited edition one of 100" or such, but a one of 1 edition, world traveled, possibly with Capa's own typewritten text on the backside.
This thing might be worth nothing, or might be worth thousands - i can't judge. If it was mine, i wouldn't sell it - i'd gladly hang it swhere in my humble home.
But i didn't buy it- somebody else did.
It was listed together with another print as "prints from unknown photographers" that is rather surprising since if you know anything and you can read, it's easily recognizable who the photographer was from the backside inscriptions. It had a ridiculous 50 euro reserve price 🙂) the owner was surely surprised nicely at the end of the auction.
The last 10 seconds a higher bidder jumped in, he was obviously watching it knowing what it is, the price went up by a factor of 5, i could not click higher. I don't know what his automatic maximum bid was...
So, that's the little story why i posted this.
Sparrow- it's quite funny, just a few days ago i reacted on your comment that you have "a pile of Capa's prints on your desk" which were "fake" as you expressed. And here comes a real thing, right in fromt of me 😀
jesse1dog
Light Catcher
Nice story!
Perhaps it wasn't genuine after all! LOL
Perhaps it wasn't genuine after all! LOL
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
so..after a month, the new owner listed the print on ebay... for 4500 bucks 🙂
of course it doesn't necessarily mean that it will sell for that much...
It's a shame, though. He's just another reseller :/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301586126178?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
of course it doesn't necessarily mean that it will sell for that much...
It's a shame, though. He's just another reseller :/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301586126178?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Lawrence Sheperd
Well-known
That surely is quite a turnaround! For comparison's sake, what did the print realize in the auction in which you were bidding?
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
he got it for 365 euro.
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