dave lackey
Veteran
This is getting hilarious...censorship... the reality is, RFF is a private site. It is owned by the owner, it is not public property and can be operated in much the same way as private real property where restrictions on photography are valid on private land. The owner of the site can do as he pleases. This is NOT a free speech issue.
As a guest, I appreciate RFF and the users. I respect each one here. I also respect Stephen for listening to our discussions and I ultimately respect his final decision. It is his alone to make.
As a guest, I appreciate RFF and the users. I respect each one here. I also respect Stephen for listening to our discussions and I ultimately respect his final decision. It is his alone to make.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Once a community has grown, he can however alienate it...
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
I have seen and have had posts I've made completely deleted in here...this decision was made by one Mod watching over that thread...it's interesting how a discussion on Religion can be eliminated/deleted due to people having different views on it and the Mods not wanting it to get too far out of hand...but what ever you do don't take away one's right to see naked women...
Thanks to Paul's concern about the easy access to nudity in here I have now changed my Profile to have those pictures blocked...my choice, my doing...
I did not know you could block them but now that I do, I am accountable for my choices and can monitor what I view...
Mind you I don't consider myself a prude but I know what I should and should not be viewing...
Thanks to Paul's concern about the easy access to nudity in here I have now changed my Profile to have those pictures blocked...my choice, my doing...
I did not know you could block them but now that I do, I am accountable for my choices and can monitor what I view...
Mind you I don't consider myself a prude but I know what I should and should not be viewing...
Mr. Fizzlesticks
Member
A boobie on the internet? What is this world coming to?
I don't go into the gallery here because looking at a bunch of amateur pictures is not my idea of a good time, but I went anyway to see what all the hubub was about. In the first twenty pages there was one nude. Seriously?
I just don't get the "moral compass" here in the US. Nudity is treated like some shameful thing and violence is considered normal when the opposite is true in the natural world. Look at the Superbowl a few years ago. The tiny nipple of Janet Jackson created a massive protest when it was surrounded by four hours of a sport so violent that concussions are a routine occurrence; the more violent the tackle the more celebrated it is; and that is called entertainment.
A few boobies on the internet? Whoop-dido.
I don't go into the gallery here because looking at a bunch of amateur pictures is not my idea of a good time, but I went anyway to see what all the hubub was about. In the first twenty pages there was one nude. Seriously?
I just don't get the "moral compass" here in the US. Nudity is treated like some shameful thing and violence is considered normal when the opposite is true in the natural world. Look at the Superbowl a few years ago. The tiny nipple of Janet Jackson created a massive protest when it was surrounded by four hours of a sport so violent that concussions are a routine occurrence; the more violent the tackle the more celebrated it is; and that is called entertainment.
A few boobies on the internet? Whoop-dido.
benlees
Well-known
We are talking about nudes? People who have no clothes on and have agreed to pose? Kind of like what painters have doing for centuries? The state we are born in? This kind of nude?! And you're worried about your kids seeing this stuff? Goodness...
Black
Photographer.
Indeed. And children need to understand that the naked form is wrong and the more we hide them from it the better people they will be. Must make taking a shower and a bath awkward though.
No one is showing porn though, are they? Lets be right. There is no playing hide the sausage being documented on this forum. Nope. Just pictures of the odd beautiful (and sometimes arguably less so) woman showing her chest.
If I am not mistaken, the sun will still set this evening and will rise again tomorrow. Thank you for allowing me to fall on deaf ears.
No one is showing porn though, are they? Lets be right. There is no playing hide the sausage being documented on this forum. Nope. Just pictures of the odd beautiful (and sometimes arguably less so) woman showing her chest.
If I am not mistaken, the sun will still set this evening and will rise again tomorrow. Thank you for allowing me to fall on deaf ears.
red snapper
Established
Personally I don't think any form of porn should be posted, that includes nudes, no matter how "tasteful" or "artistic" they are perceived to be. If its not exploitation its titillation at the very least and has no place in a serious photographic website such as this. There are plenty of magazines, books and of course galleries and sex shops (adult entertainment venues) around if one really needs to look at this stuff. Don't forget that dirty raincoat. BTW I don't do religion, so my views have nothing to do with what god may think. Guess am one of those politically correct dinosaur throwbacks from 1970's-80's activism. Maybe if there were more women here opinions would be more robust on this issue.
dave lackey
Veteran
My household and my life is not up for your value judgment. Nor is Paul's.
Black
Photographer.
lol Then why post a post about it then?
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sevo
Fokutorendaburando
However I have yet to see an awkward NUDE pop up - the odd few nude images here were more tasteful than the average news kiosk.
Arguably there have been a few embarrassing images attached to threads, which I'd rather hide from friends or clients. But none of that drivel was anywhere close to being nude - as long as we consider cats, dogs and cameras without ERC non-nude. So can we please have a "don't show me images that suck" flag?
Take a deep breath Black.
This thread is about the fact that we do have to respect each other, and the revelation that there is a way in which each member can filter content to fit their own wants.
So skip the judgement, yours can only be as wrong as everyone elses about anyone else.
This thread is about the fact that we do have to respect each other, and the revelation that there is a way in which each member can filter content to fit their own wants.
So skip the judgement, yours can only be as wrong as everyone elses about anyone else.
Mr. Fizzlesticks
Member
I would find that entirely more useful.
taskoni
Well-known
This is the weirdest post I have ever read here, ever! This is a ridiculous though for my understanding and I am glad you weren't my father
Black
Photographer.
This is the weirdest post I have ever read here, ever! This is a ridiculous though for my understanding and I am glad you weren't my father
You understand I was being ironic, right?
mdarnton
Well-known
Will the folks who are discomforted by breasts support those who are discomforted by any woman who isn't wearing a black cloak covering 98% of her body, and be willing to support the total banning of photos of women here?
I suspect not.
Grow up, boys. Everyone's got a body--get used to it. The excitement you do or don't get from these things is cultural; it's not inherent. As such, it's something you can change by becoming more reasonable. Ankles used to drive the men wild, and they don't anymore. The problem, then, is not the photographs, which are just photos--it's your attitude about the subject matter. We aren't talking about pain, death and abuse here--things no one ever seems to complain about, and can't get enough of. If you don't like the feelings you get about things which are inherently harmless, change them.
If there's something there's too much of in the gallery, it's photographs of cameras, IMO.
I suspect not.
Grow up, boys. Everyone's got a body--get used to it. The excitement you do or don't get from these things is cultural; it's not inherent. As such, it's something you can change by becoming more reasonable. Ankles used to drive the men wild, and they don't anymore. The problem, then, is not the photographs, which are just photos--it's your attitude about the subject matter. We aren't talking about pain, death and abuse here--things no one ever seems to complain about, and can't get enough of. If you don't like the feelings you get about things which are inherently harmless, change them.
If there's something there's too much of in the gallery, it's photographs of cameras, IMO.
back alley
IMAGES
i can see this thread is getting a bit hostile...funny, many speak in harsh tones but listen like little girls...
this is an age old issue and i highly doubt that it will be settled here and now.
this is an age old issue and i highly doubt that it will be settled here and now.
taskoni
Well-known
christian.rudman
digital to analog convert
I really don't see why people are taking so much offense over this discussion.
Personally, I use RFF a whole lot at work, and for work. It's an awkward thing to even have some of the aforementioned images display at any point while on this site. I understand not censoring, but allowing for users to determine their content appropriately should not even be an issue, much less a grounds for argument.
We have the ability to place mature content filters in for situations like work and at home with the family, but that doesn't always work for the lazy uploader who forgot to indicate that their image is for mature audiences. I'm not always down to see some guy's Suicide Girls fantasy shot worked out through Model Mayhem and really poor skills. I'm not opposed to artistic nudes, and I am happy to let other poor souls gaze at them all day long. But, I would appreciate a real cohesive approach for those of use who use the appropriate filters and still see the odd one slip in. There is some great photography on this site, I don't want to avoid it entirely because of a select few images, and I think that's what started this thread.
It seems like an easy fix for this is for those who don't want to see that content at times is to indicate that option in their profile, and for those uploading to have some common decency and indicate their image accordingly. For those that don't properly flag their images, there should be a "Flag this as Mature" button or something of the like in the gallery, so that it can be reviewed by a mod if someone finds issue with it's placement.
Just my two cents. Interesting convo, especially with all the inflammatory words being tossed about carelessly by users without consideration for their usage or effect. Oh the joys of RFF.
Personally, I use RFF a whole lot at work, and for work. It's an awkward thing to even have some of the aforementioned images display at any point while on this site. I understand not censoring, but allowing for users to determine their content appropriately should not even be an issue, much less a grounds for argument.
We have the ability to place mature content filters in for situations like work and at home with the family, but that doesn't always work for the lazy uploader who forgot to indicate that their image is for mature audiences. I'm not always down to see some guy's Suicide Girls fantasy shot worked out through Model Mayhem and really poor skills. I'm not opposed to artistic nudes, and I am happy to let other poor souls gaze at them all day long. But, I would appreciate a real cohesive approach for those of use who use the appropriate filters and still see the odd one slip in. There is some great photography on this site, I don't want to avoid it entirely because of a select few images, and I think that's what started this thread.
It seems like an easy fix for this is for those who don't want to see that content at times is to indicate that option in their profile, and for those uploading to have some common decency and indicate their image accordingly. For those that don't properly flag their images, there should be a "Flag this as Mature" button or something of the like in the gallery, so that it can be reviewed by a mod if someone finds issue with it's placement.
Just my two cents. Interesting convo, especially with all the inflammatory words being tossed about carelessly by users without consideration for their usage or effect. Oh the joys of RFF.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Akkkkk!
Just when I thought it was safe to get back in the water!
Just when I thought it was safe to get back in the water!
christian.rudman
digital to analog convert
Akkkkk!
Just when I thought it was safe to get back in the water!
Haahahahaha.
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