Ted Striker
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Fuji's "film simulations" are hilarious. In every case, they are 100% totally unrelated to the film that they are supposed to be simulating. At least Acros is a monochrome simulations. After that the similarity ends.
A stranger told me film is back..
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Fuji's "film simulations" are hilarious. In every case, they are 100% totally unrelated to the film that they are supposed to be simulating. At least Acros is a monochrome simulations. After that the similarity ends.
Yokosuka Mike
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Yes, Huss, that is cool to hear.
For awhile it was quite common in Yokohama to see young girls out shooting with TLR cameras, there'd usually be a group of them. They'd be laughing, and taking pictures of each other - they were having good fun.
Recently I don't see so many TLRs but there are always some SLRs and RFs hanging around somebody's neck. It's always nice to see.
All the best,
Mike
Jeremy Z
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You're the first person I've heard from who doesn't (seem to) like Fuji's film simulations. 😕
Ted Striker
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It's real simple, they just aren't accurate. The digital "Velvia" is god awful. The real Velvia is a beautiful if overly saturated film. The film simulation looks painful it is so yellow.
Astia is laughable as it has higher contrast that Provia, the direct opposite of the real Astia compared to Provia. Astia was a low contrast film.
It's like Fujifilm didnt even try to mimic the real films.
olifaunt
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Since going back, in part, to film, where batteries last years, I completely forget to charge my digital cameras. I can't overemphasize how nice it feels not to have to charge a camera.
Pál_K
Cameras. I has it.
Sometimes from my collection I choose to use a fully manual no-meter camera simply because I'm too lazy to fish out the proper silver-oxide / alkaline battery from my Box-O-Batteries in the Camera Room.
However, since lithium-ion batteries for digital cameras are so expensive, I don't let them fully discharge, as such cycling shortens their life. Instead, when they get to about 40% charge, recharge them even if you're not going to use the camera. Best to have two batteries so you can swap in a fully charged one while charging the other.
The battery in my D700 holds its charge for six months or more when not used; the X-Pro1 I let sit for six months, charged it, found my settings lost when I put the charged battery back in.
luuca
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I met at least 10 film photographers during my summer trip in Croatia, it was very funny!
We looked each other trying to see what kind of camera we were using, with a smile printed on faces 😁
I was always the older one (44)!!!
We looked each other trying to see what kind of camera we were using, with a smile printed on faces 😁
I was always the older one (44)!!!
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Go Ted, Go!
I remember exactly how I went seriously and at my own for film in 2012.
Earlier on I was digitizing our film pictures from 2003 and later on. We quit from using film and only camera for family pictures in 2007. I looked at the grainy scan with unlimited colors variations and I started to dig information how to emulate film.
I downloaded 2GB of film emulsions patterns and was ready to learn how to photoshop it over digital image.
And then... I deleted it all and spend few years to learn how to develop and scan film at home.
I don't care how many and who likes film emulations here. Here is another emulation for you 🙂.
I remember exactly how I went seriously and at my own for film in 2012.
Earlier on I was digitizing our film pictures from 2003 and later on. We quit from using film and only camera for family pictures in 2007. I looked at the grainy scan with unlimited colors variations and I started to dig information how to emulate film.
I downloaded 2GB of film emulsions patterns and was ready to learn how to photoshop it over digital image.
And then... I deleted it all and spend few years to learn how to develop and scan film at home.
I don't care how many and who likes film emulations here. Here is another emulation for you 🙂.
TenEleven
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Count me as thinking they're totally inaccurate and very badly implented, too. But to know that you'd actually have to experience the originals which for some (Astia) is sadly no longer possible.
The film simulations may look good in their own right. But since they're called "simulation" and not effect they're god awful.
The film simulations may look good in their own right. But since they're called "simulation" and not effect they're god awful.
Ste_S
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They're essentially the standard/neutral/portrait/vibrant/b&w profiles for jpg that every other digital camera has, but named after Fuji's film stocks instead.
CharlesDAMorgan
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As reported, a young man with Exakta (and Weston meter) at a classic car event. The film chimpers are on my as yet undeveloped colour roll.
Ted Striker
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I was able to buy a bulk load of Astia 220 just before the film became unobtainable. So I had a lot of experience with what Astia (and Provia) looked like when the Fuji film simulations appeared. I found it amazing that Fujifilm got it so wrong. It seems like something that if they tried, Fuji could get it right and make a very interesting feature out of their film history. But instead they just mailed it in and made film simulations that simulate nothing. A real shame.
What makes it worse is that the film simulations on the S5 Pro SLR are actually quite good. They do not simulate a particular Fuji product, but they do change the S5's images to look very much like film. I guess back then someone at Fujifilm gave a damn.
jsrockit
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I think one of the biggest mistakes in using digital is trying to emulate film. Let digital be digital and use film if you want a film look.
Huss
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Agreed. I don't treat the film emulations on my PenF as emulations of film (!), but view them purely as do they look right for the image I'm trying to create.
FYI I love the mono options on the PenF.
But I digress.. Last Sunday I was at the weekly flea mkt on Melrose in LA. Now I admit that it is an artificially high film camera target area (because of the film camera vendors and the fact that some like to wear a film camera as part of their outfit). But. But. What was really entertaining was an interaction between a customer (a mom in her 30's with her pre-teen son) and a vendor.
Mom was looking at a Yashicamat and her reaction to the vendor's asking price was:
"I'm sorry I thought this was a Yashica not a Rolleiflex!"
I really really wanted to join into that conversation but kept my nosey self out of it!
wjlapier
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Mom knows her stuff.
chipgreenberg
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I had a meeting in Taos NM Monday. I stayed over and went to do some photography at the Taos Pueblo Tuesday. It's a pretty amazing place to shoot by the way.
Monday afternoon was walking around the town of Taos. I had my Minolta autocord and tripod. Outside of cellphones (not to discount cellphones, I did a scenic I'm real happy with using my iPhone on the way home) I saw one couple each with a better than average digicam. They came over to talk to me and asked Is that a Hasselblad?
This is the second time this has happened to me. It says MINOLTA on it. It has 2 lenses.
The next morning I was at the Pueblo a bit after 8 when they opened. The light was terrific. There were two guys shooting at this one spot already. I joined them. They were shooting digital, one guy said he had a Rollie 66 in the car with B/W in it. I told him he should get it!
So lets say 1.5 photographers using film? He had some but wasn't using it.
By the time I left there were at least 100 people there taking tours. Again outside of phones I saw maybe 10 digits (one woman had 2 around her neck) and no film cameras.
So I was the only one shooting film and one guy had a film camera in the car.
Chip
Monday afternoon was walking around the town of Taos. I had my Minolta autocord and tripod. Outside of cellphones (not to discount cellphones, I did a scenic I'm real happy with using my iPhone on the way home) I saw one couple each with a better than average digicam. They came over to talk to me and asked Is that a Hasselblad?
This is the second time this has happened to me. It says MINOLTA on it. It has 2 lenses.
The next morning I was at the Pueblo a bit after 8 when they opened. The light was terrific. There were two guys shooting at this one spot already. I joined them. They were shooting digital, one guy said he had a Rollie 66 in the car with B/W in it. I told him he should get it!
So lets say 1.5 photographers using film? He had some but wasn't using it.
By the time I left there were at least 100 people there taking tours. Again outside of phones I saw maybe 10 digits (one woman had 2 around her neck) and no film cameras.
So I was the only one shooting film and one guy had a film camera in the car.
Chip
jsrockit
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Haha, Mom did her research! Good for her.
Huss
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What would u say was the avg age of those people taking the tour?
chipgreenberg
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Middle aged to upper middle aged (like me) . I was surprised to see so many people there during the week in "off" season. Not millennial snapping pics with their phones
Michael Markey
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In the small seaside resort three miles from where I live you`ll see plenty of the disposable small film cameras in use in the summer months.
The high street processing lab is therefore reasonably busy.
They stock Kodak Gold .
Most of the users are in their eighties .
The high street processing lab is therefore reasonably busy.
They stock Kodak Gold .
Most of the users are in their eighties .
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