A7 R , Noctilux, 35mm f1.2 Nokton: Any thoughts?

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The speculation on the new Sony A7 cameras is running wild on the internet. As an owner of the Noctulux f1.0 and Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 I am very interested in the new Sony. I know there may or may not be issues with wider focal lengths, but for 90 percent of my shooting I use the 50mm and 35mm and my bet is they should work well on the new Sony. I would consider using the Noctilux and Nokton and if I needed wider, use SLR wides of high quality when needed. This seems like logical strategy if the rangefinder wides have any issues below 28mm. Anyone thinking along the same lines I am?
 
I have the same plan as you. use the A7r with Fast M glass(Nok 1.1 but most likely 50 1.5Zeiss) for low light work. If you get the Hawk adapter you can do close up with M glass. Its interesting. Note A7r shutter is quite loud i think so might be a concern.
M9 for day work(Street). A7r + 35FE (sony Zeiss) and Nikon TS for Landscapes.
I think for Wides. and you want good quality and small size it would be Leica 28s that are retro focus or the super fast wides that are retrofocus.
sadly The M9 is increasingly getting quite redundant. (I'm sentiental i suppose)
Ihope Sean Reid will review this camera. i really hope so. I trust his technical reviews very much.
 
Here is a question -- has anyone found information about using the A7r tethered, I had been considering a new Lumix body, which has iPad control software, but the SONY sure looks more interesting!!
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I have not found info about tethering. Like you I hope so. I tether my 5Dii all the time for product shoots and time lapse "capsules".
If the A7R tethers and mates well enough with a selection of my Zeiss Contax lenses I may go for it.
The 5Dii has been great as the SLR lenses adapt so well to it. But, I don't carry it anymore with lighter options available.
The A7R with ZM Planar 50 and 28 Biogon for on the go and My Contax SLR lenses for product shoots back in the shop would be nice.

The idea of getting down to one system is very appealing.

As to the OP question. I have a 1.2/35 and Hex Limited 1.2/50 and use them seldom but for when the light is very low (so big!). Hoping to see good results with both of those lenses from the a7r.
The real concern from me is the refresh rate of the EVF and noise in dark rooms. So far every one I've looked through has been a dud. Admittedly I have not looked through them all.
A Noisy fluttering EVF is such a horrible way to compose an image.
 
Here is a question -- has anyone found information about using the A7r tethered, I had been considering a new Lumix body, which has iPad control software, but the SONY sure looks more interesting!!
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A Sony rep answer questions right after the announcement stated that it can be used tethered.
 
I have cv 35 1.2 and 50 1.1

The question of course is edge smearing wide open on a7r, which I pre ordered like many others.

The jury is out. We simply have no idea.

I also have a very nice nFD 20/2.8 which will be fun to use again.
 
f16sunshine said:
I have not found info about tethering. Like you I hope so. I tether my 5Dii all the time for product shoots and time lapse "capsules".
If the A7R tethers and mates well enough with a selection of my Zeiss Contax lenses I may go for it.
The 5Dii has been great as the SLR lenses adapt so well to it. But, I don't carry it anymore with lighter options available.
The A7R with ZM Planar 50 and 28 Biogon for on the go and My Contax SLR lenses for product shoots back in the shop would be nice.

The idea of getting down to one system is very appealing.

As to the OP question. I have a 1.2/35 and Hex Limited 1.2/50 and use them seldom but for when the light is very low (so big!). Hoping to see good results with both of those lenses from the a7r.
The real concern from me is the refresh rate of the EVF and noise in dark rooms. So far every one I've looked through has been a dud. Admittedly I have not looked through them all.
A Noisy fluttering EVF is such a horrible way to compose an image.
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Andy the evf rate will be determined by how much light shines onto the sensor. With lenses as fast you can focus wide open and stop down to shoot as needed. If all you intend to do is shoot wide open, there should be minimal lag
 
SAR today:
"For example we just learned that only the Sony A7r (36MP) has the offset microlens design"

And yesterday Henry at DPreview convinced me that both A7 and R would have offset lenses.

Not sure if "offset" and "oriented" are technically the same.
 
YYV_146 said:
Andy the evf rate will be determined by how much light shines onto the sensor. With lenses as fast you can focus wide open and stop down to shoot as needed. If all you intend to do is shoot wide open, there should be minimal lag
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Thank you.
Yes, I understand the theory.
Like many I hope the sensor and EVF combo in this camera will finally deliver a solution for focussing in very low light.
That is without the aid of focus assist beams which can be very distracting and un-nerving at times (although, also 100% useful at other times).

Cheers!
 
Well if the a7R is anything like the D800s sensor you better think this one over. I have a D800 and that's a lot of resolution to deal with. Shooting above F/8 creates diffraction. It requires very good glass to maximize image quality. It also requires good technique when shooting.
I have the RX-1 and it has amazing image quality and has better image quality than my D800 at only 24mpix. The a7 would do better and from what I have seen the AF on the a7 is better than the 7R. I know you are talking about a manual lens but if you ever needed the AF.
Plus the 36mpix files slow my computer a lot. I don't have a cheap computer.
 
Think Cosmo makes a good point. I am primarily a Landscape guy these days and I think I will be mainly F11 and A7r makes sense for me. Hoping the tests on A7 with 28 Summicron don't translate to same on A7r as well. Agree also with how RX-1 is:)
 
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Think Cosmo makes a good point. I am primarily a Landscape guy these days and I think I will be mainly F11 and A7r makes sense for me. Hoping the tests on A7 with 28 Summicron don't translate to same on A7r as well. Agree also with how RX-1 is:)
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You would love the a99 if you do landscaping. The best landscape camera I have ever used by a wide margin.
 
I have some Leica R lenses that I like just as much as my M mount. So if M is a no go then my Leica PC 28/2.8 R will be next option after 28 Summicron.
 
I have the A99 as well Cosmo. Had my Leica PC 28 converted to Sony A mount so I can use A99. Just find it hard to use A99 having the RX-1 as well.
 
hausen said:
I have the A99 as well Cosmo. Had my Leica PC 28 converted to Sony A mount so I can use A99. Just find it hard to use A99 having the RX-1 as well.
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I understand. One last thought. I have two Zeiss lenses made for Sony. One the 24-70mm which I consider the best lens ever made in its class. I do very little color, contrast correction or sharpening. So I find it strange someone wants to invest that kind of money for a Sony a7/7R and put a inferior manual lens on it. Zeiss will certainly make some E mount full frame lenses and I can promise you they will be better than and third party lens you put in front of the new Sony's. I have found over the years you are better off using the lenses made specifically for your system and you will be better served in the long run.
I also have a couple of converted R lenses for my a99. I do have to correct for the color when I use them as out of camera they seem flat and also the white balance is a little off as well.
 
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